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Re: A proposal for changing the guidelines

From: Scott Luebking <phoenixl@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:26:11 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <200003131926.LAA22124@netcom.com>
To: charles@w3.org, phoenixl@netcom.com
Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Hi, Charles

I'm really sorry, but you are missing the benefit of dynamically generated
web pages which is to allow tailoring to the user.

What is your definition of "generally accessible"?  For example,
in my demo the page formatted for screen readers is easier to use
for many of the blind people who tested it out.  The guidelines do not
cause the web pages to have similar formats.  Therefore the preferences
of blind users could be seen as being ignored in order to have the
illusion of a "universally designed" web page.

Also, I've been told that the concept of universally designed could
easily incorporate multiple formats.  The more relevant issue is whether
everyone's needs are being address, if possible.


PS  Look at the examples to see what areas aren't being addressed in the

> Scott,
> The guidelines promote Universal design, rather than targetted design,
> precisely in order to avoid the problem of helping one group at the expense
> of another. They recognise that there may be situations in which content is
> created in a way that is not generally accessible, and provide for that
> content to also be provided in a generally accessible format in order to
> claim conformance for that content. Note that this is not the same as a
> text-only version. For example, there are more people with partial vision
> than there are blind people in Australia by several times, and I presume that
> this is the case elsewhere. Most of these people find images useful to a
> certain extent (if they are properly used, which is a big if) and it is
> possible through good design to use graphics in a way which does not have
> anegative impact on blind users. Such universal design stretegies serve the
> various communities much better than a couple of groups being targetted
> (prehaps completely blind and completely deaf) and every other group being
> ignored.
> The guidelines make no distinction between dynamically and statically
> generated content because they describe requirements so that end-users can
> access content.
> If you can provide us with information about access problems that are not
> addressed by the curret guidelines, please do, so we can address them in
> revisions. That is why we seek a diverse group of members for the working
> group - no one person is likely to know all the problemfaced by all the users
> of the web.
> Cheers
> Charles
Received on Monday, 13 March 2000 14:29:55 UTC

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