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RE: text equivalents for multimedia

From: Bruce Bailey <bbailey@clark.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:27:01 -0500
To: "Al Gilman" <asgilman@iamdigex.net>, "Anne Pemberton" <apembert@crosslink.net>
Cc: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <000f01bf846c$84fef8e0$53fe330a@msde>
Not to rain on anyone's parade here, but doesn't SMIL work ONLY with
STREAMING audio formats (i.e, Real G2 and QuickTime)?  Broadcast hosting
services are expensive!  I would wager lunch that the binaries Anne wants to
post are HUGE .wav files that take a longer to download (at dialup speeds)
than they take to play!  If this is the case, links to static text is ALL
she can do!  I hope someone tells me I am wrong about this!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Al Gilman
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 8:59 AM
> To: Anne Pemberton
> Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
> Subject: Re: text equivalents for multimedia
>
>
> Anne,
>
> We have ideas about what you should do, but they are largely untested.  I
> hope people can step back a bit and say, "What can we do with this site?"
> in a positive vein.
>
> Links to a static display of the words for the song is one thing.
>
> It is also possible to play the words on the screen as captions in time
> with the music.  Using the SMIL format and the Real Networks G2
> player that
> would play.
>
> WGBH has a tool under development (beta versions are available)
> which helps
> in creating the caption tracks.
>
> If this is a bit daunting we should maybe recruit in EO for volunteers to
> help you with the captioning of the material.
>
> This stuff is not widely deployed.  There is some at the Able channel.  So
> this is not stuff "obviously you should be doing now."  But perhaps by
> using the network we can get you help to make your site a
> leading-technology example and we can point others at it.  It would be
> great to do it with something the kids put up of their own singing.
>
> Al
>
> At 12:21 PM 2000-03-01 -0500, you wrote:
> >Wendy,
> >	Excuse my denseness. We just got an Internet site last week
> for the school
> >I work at. I've known it was coming, and have had bursts of ideas on the
> >brain for weeks now. One was inspired by finding a site: Famous
> Americans:
> >Pictures and music by Mrs. Eberle's 2nd grade class (Washington,
> Jefferson,
> >Lincoln, Tubmam, Anthony, King)
> >http://www.ih.k12.oh.us/ps/americana/Eberle/EBsongs.htm
> >on which 2nd graders sing songs about each of the pictured
> history people.
> >There is no text other than the names under the pictures which serve as
> >links to the music. (I would have loved to have found the words
> to some of
> >the songs, but I figured it was more than the kids could handle and the
> >teacher saved some for another year...
> >	Anyway, one of my first grade classes, weekly practices
> "He's Got the
> >Whole World In His Hands" until we get a mic in the new lab so they can
> >begin to record and edit the piece.
> >
> >	If I am to exemplify "accessibility" to other elementary
> teachers making
> >web pages in their classses, is it enough that I add a text to
> the page or
> >to a link to page of the words? Do I need to include a copy of
> the musical
> >notation? Would I be required to obtain a copyright to include
> the musical
> >notation if that's necessary or usable to the hearing impaired (e.g.)?
> >
> >	The website is "free" educational website for schools under
> the name of
> >Family Education. I get to the site at: http://myschool.com
> >I attended the training last week, and noted, tho the presenters
> were both
> >from Boston, and my ears have been long-trained to the slower pace of
> >southern speakers, I don't think I heard any mention of
> accessibility, tho
> >the trainers said we could only put one graphic on per page, I found out
> >over the weekend, that I could put a page of graphics (about 12), with a
> >background, as long as I store the graphics and background on an off-site
> >server ... and I'm anxious to put up a web page with sound on
> it.... But I
> >do want to do it right. But what is right? I try to read up on
> and and end
> >up confused.... Again excuse my denseness.....
> >
> >					Anne
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >At 01:10 PM 2/23/2000 -0500, Wendy A Chisholm wrote:
> >>hello,
> >>
> >>In the general techniques document in the section on audio and video it
> says:
> >><blockquote>
> >>Equivalents for sounds can be provided in the form of a text
> phrase on the
> >>page that links to a text transcript or description of the
> sound file. The
> >>link to the transcript should appear in a highly visible
> location such as
> >>at the top of the page. However, if a script is automatically loading a
> >>sound, it should also be able to automatically load a visual indication
> >>that the sound is currently being played and provide a description or
> >>transcript of the sound.
> >></blockquote>
> >>
> >>This implies that the text equivalent of a multimedia clip can *only*
> >>appear on a separate page.  What if someone provides in on the same
> >>page?  This question has come up in ER as we are trying to
> determine what
> >>to ask the author if we find multimedia on a page.
> >>
>
> >>I thought we had discussed this already on this list, but I did not see
> any
> >>mention of it in the archives nor in minutes.  Either I missed
> it or I'm
> >>thinking of an ER thread.
> >>
> >>--wendy
> >>--
> >>wendy a chisholm
> >>world wide web consortium
> >>web accessibility initiative
> >>madison, wi usa
> >>tel: +1 608 663 6346
> >>/--
> >>
> >>
> >Anne L. Pemberton
> >http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Pav/Academy1
> >http://www.erols.com/stevepem/Homeschooling
> >apembert@crosslink.net
> >Enabling Support Foundation
> >http://www.enabling.org
> >
>
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