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Re: text equivalents for multimedia

From: geoff freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org>
Date: 23 Feb 2000 14:39:13 -0500
Message-ID: <-1260805751geoff_freed@wgbh.org>
To: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, Wendy A Chisholm <wendy@w3.org>, <w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org>
CC: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
looks good to me-- no reason to load a new page if it isn't necessary.

thanks.
geoff/ncam

On Wednesday, February 23, 2000, Wendy A Chisholm <wendy@w3.org> wrote:
>Geoff,
>
>If people agree that this is an o.k. thing to do, then we would include it 
>in the techniques document.  The current phrase that I pointed out would 
>probably be reworded to something like:
><blockquote>
>Equivalents for sounds can be provided on the same page as the sound or in 
>a separate file.  If in a separate file, provide a short text equivalent 
>(like an "alt-text") in the text of the link to the text transcript or 
>description of the sound file. The link to the transcript should appear in 
>a highly visible location such as at the top of the page. However, if a 
>script is automatically loading a sound, it should also be able to 
>automatically load a visual indication that the sound is currently being 
>played and provide a description or transcript of the sound.
>  </blockquote>
>
>thoughts?
>--wendy
>
>At 01:53 PM 2/23/00 , geoff freed wrote:
>>i don't see anything wrong with providing short descriptions on the same 
>>page.  it might actually avoid user confusion and extra work for the 
>>author.  in fact, it might even be a good idea to include this option in 
>>the techniques document.
>>
>>geoff/ncam
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wednesday, February 23, 2000, Wendy A Chisholm <wendy@w3.org> wrote:
>> >We were wondering about text not included in the body of an OBJECT element
>> >but just on the page.
>> >--w
>> >
>> >At 01:16 PM 2/23/00 , Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
>> >>Why not give an actual example:
>> >>
>> >><object data="some_film" type="video/x-my-private-format">
>> >><h2><a href="some_film" title="link to download the example movie">Example
>> >>2.7 is a movie:</a></h2>
>> >><p>In scene one, Charles and John are talking on the balcony.</p>
>> >><object data="scene_one_pic" type="image/x-my-other-forat">
>> >></object>
>> >><p>John says <q>well chuckles, how goes it?</q></p>
>> >><p>Charles shakes his head slowly.</p>
>> >></object>
>> >>
>> >>Which makes it clear that the transcript can be included directly, if
>> >>desired.
>> >>
>> >>(Please edit the example to taste. It would be nice to give an XHTML 
>> example
>> >>which used namespaces to add a bit of SMIL in places, but I guess that's
>> >>jumping the gun for the moment)
>> >>
>> >>Charles
>> >>
>> >>On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Wendy A Chisholm wrote:
>> >>
>> >>   hello,
>> >>
>> >>   In the general techniques document in the section on audio and video it
>> >> says:
>> >>   <blockquote>
>> >>   Equivalents for sounds can be provided in the form of a text phrase 
>> on the
>> >>   page that links to a text transcript or description of the sound 
>> file. The
>> >>   link to the transcript should appear in a highly visible location 
>> such as
>> >>   at the top of the page. However, if a script is automatically loading a
>> >>   sound, it should also be able to automatically load a visual indication
>> >>   that the sound is currently being played and provide a description or
>> >>   transcript of the sound.
>> >>   </blockquote>
>> >>
>> >>   This implies that the text equivalent of a multimedia clip can *only*
>> >>   appear on a separate page.  What if someone provides in on the same
>> >>   page?  This question has come up in ER as we are trying to determine 
>> what
>> >>   to ask the author if we find multimedia on a page.
>> >>
>> >>   I thought we had discussed this already on this list, but I did not see
>> >> any
>> >>   mention of it in the archives nor in minutes.  Either I missed it or I'm
>> >>   thinking of an ER thread.
>> >>
>> >>   --wendy
>> >>   --
>> >>   wendy a chisholm
>> >>   world wide web consortium
>> >>   web accessibility initiative
>> >>   madison, wi usa
>> >>   tel: +1 608 663 6346
>> >>   /--
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>Charles McCathieNevile    mailto:charles@w3.org    phone: +61 (0) 409 
>> 134 136
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>> >
>> >--
>> >wendy a chisholm
>> >world wide web consortium
>> >web accessibility initiative
>> >madison, wi usa
>> >tel: +1 608 663 6346
>> >/--
>> >
>> >
>
>--
>wendy a chisholm
>world wide web consortium
>web accessibility initiative
>madison, wi usa
>tel: +1 608 663 6346
>/--
>
>
Received on Wednesday, 23 February 2000 14:37:38 GMT

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