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(unknown charset) Re: ALTCOGPRES

From: (unknown charset) Dan Brickley <danbri@w3.org>
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 13:35:26 -0400 (EDT)
To: (unknown charset) Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
cc: (unknown charset) Marja-Riitta Koivunen <marja@w3.org>, gv@trace.wisc.edu, "GL - WAI Guidelines WG (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.20.0006041331280.9651-100000@tux.w3.org>

Here's a link to my half-finished RDF interface to WordNet., entry for
Eagle. RDF's hierarchical type system thinks of this as the class of
things Eagle, which is a sub-class of the class Bird_of_prey.

http://xmlns.com/wordnet/1.6/Eagle (and XML/RDF file describing entries in
the system above and immediately below Eagle).

I hope to fix this (currently I confuse WordNet synonym-sets with the
terms that constitute them, which creates a broken type hierarchy) and
make it widely known. In meantime, more on WordNet available at 
http://cogsci.princeton.edu/~wn/ (framed site, sadly)


On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:

> There are metadata dicitionaries around that describe words in terms of
> subclasses - eagle is a subclass of birds of prey, which is a subclass of
> birds, etc.
> These things are all in RDF, and should therefore be able to have a
> URI. Which would enable us to use RDF to link keywords, meanings, and
> illustrations.
> Which means we could build tools to add this kind of stuff. (Kynn's magic
> dream tool...)
> cheers
> Charles McCN
> On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Marja-Riitta Koivunen wrote:
>   At 02:02 PM 4/30/00 -0500, Gregg Vanderheiden wrote:
>   >Marti's comment got me thinking about drawing parallels to other
>   >disabilities and what we do there.
>   >
>   >Adding visual descriptions of pictures is adding something to a page that
>   >was not there.  Could something equivalent be done for cognitive access?
>   >Two things that are true for LONGDESCs  (and ALT) are
>   >1)	it doesn't affect the appearance of the page for mass users
>   >2)	it is fairly easy to describe how to do it (though quality will obviously
>   >vary)
>   >3)	it takes 1% to 5% of the effort (or less) to put the page/site together
>   >to do it.
>   >
>   >
>   >so putting these together let me coin a term  ALTCOGPRES  (Alternative
>   >Cognitive Presentation)
>   >is there a way we can come up with a  *straightforward*,  *easy to describe*
>   >and *easy to do* technique for presenting information on a page in an
>   >alternate form that
>   >1)	doesn't affect the appearance of the page for mass users
>   >2)	is fairly easy to describe how to do it
>   >3)	takes 1% to 5% of the effort (or less) to put the page/site together to
>   >do it.
>   >
>   >
>   Some more brainstorming:
>   SMIL already has an abstract attribute for some elements. Maybe that could
>   be one way of adding information of major components of content as well as
>   the whole page. Short simple text could help also users with small screen
>   devices.
>   If I have interpreted the demands right, the TTS should work with these
>   alternative attributes (If they don't has anyone told the TTS developers
>   that?) or there should be also an audio version of them. Then similar info
>   should be also presented with images. Or maybe the abstract should always
>   contain a clarifying image?
>   Then it would be nice also to have a simple explanation of the navigational
>   structure of the site that could be attached to each page. This could help
>   many other users too.
>   Marja
>   >Gregg
>   >
>   >
>   >
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