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Re: A symbolic WAI homepage

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 06:31:19 -0400 (EDT)
To: Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>
cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.20.0004090622300.7849-100000@tux.w3.org>
There is work on turning RDF into SVG and VRML - have a look at the rdf
interest group archives for discussions about GraphViz (for example
http://lists.w3.org/Archive/public/www-rdf-interest/2000Apr/0008 although
there are others), a tool that does this.

Danbri and Dan Connolly (within W3C) and others have worked on extracting
navigation information into RDF.

I have worked (in another context) on adding dictionaries to things (and
there are plenty of other people who have too).

So a lot of the tools stuff can be done, if we can bring together the right
pieces. Likewise, we need to work collaboratively to prduce results in the
form of examples - if one person had the answers we wouldn't need a working
group in the first place.

cheers

Charles McCN

On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Al Gilman wrote:

  At 03:13 PM 2000-04-08 -0400, Marja-Riitta Koivunen wrote:
  >At 06:18 PM 4/8/00 +0100, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote:
  >>william wrote:
  >>WL: We're eagerly looking forward to see your development of this
  >>graphical representation.
  >>
  >>I have tried to indicate to everyone on this list that it is a group effort
  >>that is required.
  >>I have already produced http://www.peepo.com/access
  >
  >I hope you mean you would want to have feedback from the site? Here are my
  >main comments from a general usability perspective:
  >
  >Quite a lot of this page is actually text - In my point of view the
  >simplification comes from having only a little text in one page, no
  >paragraphs, just main thoughts in one sentence  or a word. Is that what you
  >are aiming to? Is it better to have many pages with little information or
  >couple of pages with more information?
  >
  >The hello icon does not give me much information and I need the text to
  >understand it. But I can learn it if it is used consistently in many
  >places. I might also want to use my own memory aid icons from my personal
  >library but this is currently not straightforward to do, maybe adding icon
  >annotations to a page could help with CD?
  
  AG::
  
  The ideal would be to attach images selected by the user to match-patterns
  in the structure graph of the site.  So the icon would recur when the
  navigation structure pattern is detected on another site.
  
  MRK::
  
  >
  >What I would add to the site, is to have a graphical navigation bar to
  >illustrate the site structure instead of textually saying to continue to
  >the next page and other textual links. That navigation bar should give
  >feedback about where the users are (what they selected) and where they can
  >go (other items in the navigation bar).
  >
  
  AG::
  
  Links covering a neighborhood of where you are now is a navigation resource.
  
  Indented table of contents bar is best current presentation of this on Web
  today.
  
  VRML of where you are in a Jungle Gym abstraction of the site is perhaps a
  yet more compelling metaphor.
  
  Al
  
  >Rigth now if I select links along my way and then try to think were I ended
  >to and how to get back, or what else there is, I'm in trouble. Navigation
  >bar functions as a memory aid to me.
  >
  >I hope this helps a bit forward.
  >
  >Marja
  > 
  

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