Re: Good Noframes example

I think the CPSC.gov site could use a little improvement to serve as a model of
noframes support. It looks to me like they have copied the main frame html
(indexmain.html) into the NOFRAMES element. In doing that they have introduced
the problems of multiple copies of content, because the same content is also
available at their noframes link (indexnof.html), the third copy. Both their
noframes link, and the NOFRAMES content are missing the navigation links that
are on the navigation frame of the framed site.on the left. No doubt they can be
found somewhere in the site, but they are clearly supposed to be highlighted,
and they aren't with their noframes/NOFRAMES.

I suspect it may be necessary to have duplicated content in order to support no
frames versions of "Framed pages." I think it is better to place a link to a no
frames page in the NOFRAME element. For this site, without the navigation links,
I looks like this could just point to indexmain.html, resulting in no repetition
of content. But to include the navigation, no frames page should include both
the main content (at the top) copied from the main page, and the navigation
links at the bottom copied from the navigation frame.

By the way, the FRAME elements do not have titles as recommended by W3C. However
they do have name attributes and name attributes are supported by text browsers
like lynx and HPR, while titles are not.

Jim Thatcher
IBM Special Needs Systems
www.ibm.com/sns
HPR Documentation page: http://www.austin.ibm.com/sns/hprdoc.html
thatch@us.ibm.com
(512)838-0432


Marion Metcalf <mmetcalf@tmn.com> on 10/09/99 07:25:19 PM

To:   w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
cc:   mcohn@ntmail.cpsc.gov
Subject:  Good Noframes example




The Consumer Product Safety Commission site at http://www.cpsc.gov/ is a
good example for how to do the NOFRAMES on a home page for a site that
uses frames.  If the guidelines working group wants examples for the
techniques documentation, this is a site that "gets it."

- Marion Metcalf

Received on Sunday, 10 October 1999 18:37:31 UTC