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Re: Fw: Checkpoint 3.3

From: Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 08:41:00 -0400
Message-Id: <199907171234.IAA19682@relay.interim.iamworld.net>
To: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
At 05:16 AM 7/17/99 -0400, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:

CMN::
>My knee-jerk answer is yes, because CSS actually includes a mechanism whereby
>HTML 3.2 presentational elements which were deprecated in HTML 4.0 are
>included in the CSS cascade.

AG::
To what extent is this "CSS actually" in the sense that it is in the
consensus core of implemented CSS functions?

CMN::
>The point against is that inline elements are not part of style sheets,
>which is what the checkpoint actually requires.

AG::
The question is why that is what the checkpoint "actually requires."  Is
that what accessibility actually requires?  What is the operational
difference as seen by the user?  What information is unavailable?  What
added difficulty is there to access what information? 

Al

>What do other folks think?
>
>Charles
>
>On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Kynn Bartlett wrote:
>
>  At 03:26 AM 7/16/1999 , Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
>  >The guidelines state "use CSS to control layout and presentation". This
means
>  >it is possible to create a page which does not use any particular
>  >presentation control (which is what I normally do) and to attach a
stylesheet
>  >which provides safe styling if you want.
>  
>  Question:  Does the HTML Writers Guild's homepage, at
>  http://www.hwg.org/index.html , satisfy checkpoint 3.3?
>  
>  It uses both HTML _and_ CSS for layout and presentation.
>  
>  --
>  Kynn Bartlett                                    mailto:kynn@hwg.org
>  President, HTML Writers Guild                    http://www.hwg.org/
>  AWARE Center Director                          http://aware.hwg.org/
>  
>
>--Charles McCathieNevile            mailto:charles@w3.org
>phone: +1 617 258 0992   http://www.w3.org/People/Charles
>W3C Web Accessibility Initiative    http://www.w3.org/WAI
>MIT/LCS  -  545 Technology sq., Cambridge MA, 02139,  USA
> 
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