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RE: potentially misinterpreted wording on label positioning

From: Greg Lowney <greglo@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:24:41 -0700
Message-ID: <4FD6422BE942D111908D00805F3158DF08CF9292@RED-MSG-52>
To: "Charles (Chuck) Oppermann" <chuckop@microsoft.com>, Al Gilman <asgilman@access.digex.net>, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
For blind access that is true, the LABEL element allows screen readers
identify the label of a control even if the two are spatially separated.
However, grouping them closely together helps people using magnifiers or who
have limited field of vision, and I would assume that it also helps people
with some types of cognitive impairments.

		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Charles (Chuck) Oppermann
[mailto:chuckop@microsoft.com]
		Sent:	Wednesday, October 07, 1998 6:18 PM
		To:	Al Gilman; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
		Subject:	RE: potentially misinterpreted wording on
label positioning

		Shouldn't a exception be made for labels using the <LABEL>
element?  That's
		the purpose of the element, to remove the need for user
agents and the
		accessibility aids that run on top of them to "figure out"
where the element
		is.

		With Internet Explorer 4.01 and Active Accessibility, if the
<LABEL> element
		is used, it doesn't matter what the visual appearance is -
the two elements
		are linked programmatically and the accessibility aid will
be aware of it.

		-----Original Message-----
		From: Al Gilman [mailto:asgilman@access.digex.net]
		Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 6:11 PM
		To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
		Subject: potentially misinterpreted wording on label
positioning



		In Appendix C where it is talking about labels for form
elements, it says

		        15. A.12.4. For all form controls with labels,
ensure that the
		            label that is either:
		               o [239]immediately following its control on
the same line
		                 (allowing more than one control/label per
line).
		               o or [240]on the line before the control
(with only one
		                 label and one control per line).


		In the second list item [link 240] I would have taken this
to mean
		that the label is on one line, the control on the next.
That is
		not what you mean.  I think that fewer people will be
confused if
		you just make it parallel with the first list item

		               o or [240]on the same line but before the
control (with 
		                 only one label and one control per line).


		Actually, I would have listed this as the first choice...

		Al
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