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RE: ALT text survey

From: Charles (Chuck) Oppermann <chuckop@MICROSOFT.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:27:19 -0800
Message-ID: <E3A3FFB80F5CD1119CED00805FBECA2F013BBDC6@red-msg-55.dns.microsoft.com>
To: "'Colin F Reynolds'" <colin@the-net-effect.com>, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
In a informal survey of various sites, I found all of them used HEIGHT and
WIDTH.  People and authoring tools put them in, so that the page is
formatted correctly before the image is loaded.

Even the primarily text based http://www.yahoo.com uses them.  So while you
might not think that HTML isn't a page layout language, it's certainly being
used as one.  

Obviously, the guidelines must reflect the real world of HTML development.

Concerning your comment about competition-bashing.  That wasn't my intent.
However, we will take credit for the accessibility features that have been
present in Internet Explorer for awhile now.  That is the goal of these
groups isn't it?  To affect the development of Internet products to make
them more accessible?

Charles Oppermann
Program Manager, Active Accessibility, Microsoft Corporation
mailto:chuckop@microsoft.com http://microsoft.com/enable/
"A computer on every desk and in every home, usable by everyone!" 

-----Original Message-----
From: Colin F Reynolds [mailto:colin@the-net-effect.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 5:41 PM
To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: Re: ALT text survey

In article <E3A3FFB80F5CD1119CED00805FBECA2F013BBDB3@red-msg-
55.dns.microsoft.com>, "Charles (Chuck) Oppermann"
<chuckop@MICROSOFT.com> writes

[snippage of competition-bashing]

>No guidelines should recommend to authors that they specify minimum HEIGHT=
>and WIDTH= attributes,

Why not? "Height" and "width" are _attributes_ of an image; they
describe the content. That's what "markup" is all about.

> since the radically affects page layout.

Ah. That's where you've gone wrong. HTML is not a page layout language.
Colin Reynolds, The Net Effect (World Wide) Ltd
Tel: +44 (0)1246 450 901
Fax: +44 (0)1246 450 902
Received on Wednesday, 11 February 1998 14:27:51 UTC

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