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RE: Technique 3.3.A - checking for style sheets

From: Wendy A Chisholm <wendy@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:43:06 -0500
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To: <w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org>, mcooper@cast.org
I added the following to the list of triggers;
If layout tables are identified (see technique 5.1.1), trigger this check 
as well.

michael,
does your comment imply that we ought to get rid of the first check:
Check the document for presence of STYLE or LINK rel="stylesheet" elements 
within the HEAD element or use of "style" attributes throughout the document.
--wendy

At 07:10 PM 2/20/00 , Michael Cooper wrote:
>I like the idea to trigger the suggestion to use stylesheets on just a
>couple of elements, such as FONT, where a stylesheet can be used. I would
>add that it's very important to trigger this if we find a layout table as
>well. I think one of the big intents of stylesheets was to be able to
>position items that way and move away from layout tables altogether. Once
>CSS is widely supported, we would want to see layout tables disappear
>entirely.
>
>Michael
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: w3c-wai-er-ig-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:w3c-wai-er-ig-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Wendy A Chisholm
> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 3:48 PM
> > To: Leonard R. Kasday; w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org
> > Subject: Re: Technique 3.3.A - checking for style sheets
> >
> >
> >   I tried to incorporate your comments, Len, in the following proposal.
> > Hopefully it conveys that if none of the presentation elements or
> > attributes exist then we just need to verify that structural elements are
> > not being abused.  Perhaps this ought to link to those techniques.  For
> > now, I suggest "verify that the author has chosen not to modify
> > presentation in any way."  that's pretty open-ended, perhaps too much so?
> >
> > <blockquote>
> > Technique 3.3.1 [priority 2] Check document for use of style sheets.
> > Discussion Status:
> > awaiting discussion
> > Evaluation:
> > Check the document for presence of STYLE or LINK rel="stylesheet"
> > elements
> > within the HEAD element or use of "style" attributes throughout
> > the document.
> > Check for FONT and BASEFONT elements, and the "text," "vlink,"
> > "link," and
> > "alink" attributes on BODY.
> >
> > Example of a message to be displayed:
> > Use style sheets to control layout and presentation. For example, use the
> > CSS 'font' property instead of the HTML FONT and BASEFONT elements to
> > control font styles
> >
> > Repair Technique:
> > If none of these elements are identified, verify that the author
> > has chosen
> > not to modify the presentation in any way.
> >
> > If FONT or BASEFONT elements or "text," "vlink," "link," and "alink"
> > attributes on BODY, suggest or help the author convert the presentatin
> > properties to style sheets.
> >
> > If the author chosses to convert deprecated markup to style sheets or add
> > style sheets, trigger technique 6.1 to verify that the document
> > is readable
> > when style sheets are not applied.
> > </blockquote>
> > At 09:37 PM 1/30/00 , Leonard R. Kasday wrote:
> >
> >
> > >>Check document for presence of STYLE or LINK rel="stylesheet" elements.
> > >>If neither occur, then provide a user notification.
> > >>Example Language:
> > >'
> > >What if a person simply wants to do straight HTML with nothing but
> > >structural elements, e.g. H1, H2, UL, <STRONG> etc.
> > >
> > >We don't want to say they must use style sheets if they have no wish to
> > >change browser's default fonts etc.
> > >
> > >So it woulb be bettter to restrict this notification to cases where some
> > >other means such as font is used for things that font could be used for.
> > >
> > >Len
> > >-------
> > >Leonard R. Kasday, Ph.D.
> > >Institute on Disabilities/UAP, and
> > >Department of Electrical Engineering
> > >Temple University
> > >423 Ritter Annex, Philadelphia, PA 19122
> > >
> > >kasday@acm.org
> > >http://astro.temple.edu/~kasday
> > >
> > >(215) 204-2247 (voice)
> > >(800) 750-7428 (TTY)
> >
> > --
> > wendy a chisholm
> > world wide web consortium
> > web accessibility initiative
> > madison, wi usa
> > tel: +1 608 663 6346
> > /--
> >

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wendy a chisholm
world wide web consortium
web accessibility initiative
madison, wi usa
tel: +1 608 663 6346
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