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Re: TOM tool

From: Keith Wessel <kwessel@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:24:32 -0600 (CST)
Message-Id: <199811051624.KAA21106@eads.ncsa.uiuc.edu>
To: pav@oce.nl (Peter Verhoeven)
Cc: kwessel@ncsa.uiuc.edu, w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org
Hi, Peter,

Thanks for your feedback.  First for the "disappearing image" problem.
Were you running Tom in add mode or replace mode?  Remember that the
intent of replace mode is to totally strip out all images and make a
text-only page.  Add mode will add alt tags, but leave the images in the
page.  You'll want to use add mode.

With your image map, I have actually never seen that type of
construction used before.  That can be added fairly easily, though.  Tom
is trained with client-side imagemaps created with the "usemap"
attribute to the <IMG> tag.

I appreciate your feedback very much!  Remember, Tom is a work in
progress.  My studies and other activities have pulled me away from
development of Tom over the past few months, but I'm still keeping a
running wishlist.  I'll add these to it.  I hope I can get back in to
the project soo, as well as find others who can also help.

Thank you!


> Hi Keith,
> Someone gives me a page where TOM seems to work fine at
> http://www.teleport.com. 
> TOM seems to remove images from my example page
> http://www.ns.nl/reisinfo/start.asp. That is the reason I see no image map
> and no alt tags. 
> Why are the images removed from that page? 
> At the bottom of that page there is a buttonbar <INPUT TYPE=IMAGE
> SRC="image.gif". The images.gif file is an image map. TOM does not see that
> it is an image map. Maybe it is difficult to handle this construction?
> Regards Peter Verhoeven
> Today I did some testing with the TOM tool and want to give you some feedback.
> I find that TOM only works on what I called here simple webpages, but not
> on more complex pages including IMAGE MAPS. 
> At the webpage http://www.ns.nl/reisinfo/start.asp
> you can plan you travel by train. There are to IMAGE MAPS on this page. One
> at the top left and one at the bottom right. 
> After entering the URL in the TOM tool I can fill the ALT tag for some
> images and the descriptions for the client side map. I can not fill
> descriptions for the image map (buttonbar) at the bottom right of the
> document.
> After processing the TOM form (I checked add alt tags) an document results
> that is not accessible at all.
> ALT tags are added to the client side map, but I don't see them at all.
> This is because my Netscape 4.5 browser does not support HTML 4 I think. 
> After saving the page and changed the relative URLs to absolute URLs I see
> no image map at all? But this maybe caused by not loading the document from
> the original server.
> I think it is better to change such image maps in unnumbered lists?
> The buttonbar <INPUT TYPE=IMAGE SCR="image.gif" has an ALT tag, but the
> IMAGE is a image map itself. 
> Regards Peter Verhoeven
> Internet : http://www.plex.nl/~pverhoe (The Screen Magnifiers Homepage)
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