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Re: Agenda: ER-IG Meeting Wed Nov 4th, 4PM EST

From: Leonard R. Kasday <kasday@acm.org>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:19:48 -0500
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19981104091939.013f8f4c@pop3.concentric.net>
To: w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org
I accidentally left out another area of interest: filters that transform
the page structurally, e.g. Michael Vorburger's "Text-equiv filter"
described at

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-er-ig/1998Oct/0018.html

which e.g. takes an artificial bullet list made from little images of
bullets and text and transforms it into a real <UL>/<LI> list.  We can
discuss this sort of tool after item (4).

Len


At 09:59 PM 11/3/98 -0500, Leonard R. Kasday wrote:
>Here's the agenda for our teleconference
>
>Wed., Nov, 4th, 4-6 pm EST  (i.e. Boston Time)
>
>There are at least 7 major ER-WG areas of work now in the discussion,
>planning, or implementation stages.  They are listed at the end of this
>email, along with some of the issues they raise.  If I've missed any,
>please post to the list.
>
>Agenda
>
>1. Spend 5-10 minutes on each area, discussing:
>
>  a. How shall we identify and resolve issues?
>     (e.g. expert advice; surveys; simulations)
>
>  b. Who will provide advice
>     (e.g. Us, expert users, naive users, individual web authors, authoring
>teams)
>     and how shall we obtain that advice
>
>2. Find out  who is interested in dealing with which projects
>
>3. Find out who would like to volunteer to be editor on each.
>
>4. Plan 
>    next steps
>    next meetings
>
>
>Len
>
>
>-------------------
>
>Work Areas
>
>1. The web report form.
>
>Last message to this list was
>
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-er-ig/1998Aug/0024.html
>
>Daniels's draft form is at http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/report
>
>- Do we as a group have consensus that this is a useful tool?
>- Do we have additional suggestions for improvement?
>- Is there a way to test some of the concepts with users?
>- In addition to sending reports to webmasters, should reports be made
>public?
>
>2. Bottom Line evaluation.
>see e.g. David's comments at
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-er-ig/1998Sep/0007.html
>
> - What are minimum  requirement for "pass"?
>    Is starting point a count of requirements passed/failed?
>    or is starting point something like  . "usable with Lynx"
>
>3. ALT text inserters for users
>
>This concerns tools that try to supply ALT text and other text equivalents
>when they are missing from web page.
>
>  Daniel's  features are at http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/text-equiv.htm
>  Michael's plan for author- and user- oriented tools are in his mail at
>     http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-er-ig/1998Nov/0007.html
>
>  - How can we contribute to this effort?
>    e.g. apply by hand to "typical" pages?
>
>4. ALT text inserters for authors
>   Michael's plan listed above
>   A-Prompt (URL available from chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca)
>   Marja's suggestions at 
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-er-ig/1998Nov/0000.html
>
>5. Audio browsing simulators
>  e.g. Al's note at
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-er-ig/1998Sep/0023.html
>
>  - What would value of this tool be?, e.g. compared with viewing via Lynx?
>  - Feature design?
>
>6. Tables.
>
>   According to comments from some folks in Peterborough, tables cause
>major difficulty once alternative text is taken care of, since the spatial
>organization of tables conveys information.
>
>   Recommendations for browsing tables in the UA guidelines. e.g. in the
>working draft
>
>  http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/WD-WAI-USERAGENT-19980814.html#Alt-tables
>  http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/WD-WAI-USERAGENT-19980814.html#Nav-tables
>
>  Some of this functionality can be provided by filters to current day
>browsers.
>  See thread "simulating output of transform tools"  at
>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-er-ig/1998Oct/subject.html#start
>
>7. Heristics tests for "good" ALT text
>   thread "Heuristic tests not in Guidelines" at 
>
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-er-ig/1998Oct/subject.html#start
>   - syntactic rules, e.g. warn Null ALT text for pure IMG link
>   - semantic rules, e.g.  warn concrete ALT text for pure IMG link
>   - punctuation rules, e.g. terminate ALT text with (.)
>
>   
>
>
>
>-------
>Leonard R. Kasday
>Institute on Disabilities/UAP at Temple University, Philadelphia PA
>email:     kasday@acm.org
>telephone: (215} 204 2247
>
>
>
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Leonard R. Kasday
Institute on Disabilities/UAP at Temple University, Philadelphia PA
email:     kasday@acm.org
telephone: (215} 204 2247
Received on Wednesday, 4 November 1998 09:19:49 UTC

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