- From: Kerstin Probiesch <k.probiesch@googlemail.com>
- Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:07:22 +0200
- To: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>
- Cc: "EOWG (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>
Hi Shawn, thanks for additional information. > If you have any suggestions on how to make this more clear, we welcome them! What about: "Chance/possibility/opportunity (one of this) to be conform with..." Probably it would include the "risks" without naming them explicitly, but I don't know how it sounds for mainly english speaking people. Regards Kerstin > > Regards, > ~Shawn > > > On 6/21/2011 1:29 PM, Kerstin Probiesch wrote: >> >> Hi Shawn, >> dear EOWG, >> >> actually in Germany there is no risk anyway, especially not for the >> private sector. The experiences from the last years have shown, that >> there is also no risk for those who have to do it. I don't want to >> fragment the presentation, but is it possible to have an alternative >> version for this slide? >> >> Cheers >> >> Kerstin >> >> >> 2011/6/21 Shawn Henry<shawn@w3.org>: >>> >>> Hi Rob, >>> >>> Thanks for the input. For some organizations, the legal risk is the >>> primary >>> motivator for accessibility, and really the only reason that they do it. >>> "protect against unintended consequences" does have a nice ring to it, >>> but >>> might not work well with non-native speakers. Some felt the more clear " >>> reduces risk of legal action" would be best in this case. So for this >>> next >>> draft we're trying leaving it in -- within the totally different and >>> positive approach that you agree with below. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> ~Shawn >>> >>> >>> On 6/10/2011 7:36 AM, Robert Yonaitis wrote: >>>> >>>> All, >>>> >>>> I agree with Karl that legal action risk statements can be problematic >>>> and Shadi on being more positive and on the order in which the risk is >>>> presented in a positive manner: >>>> >>>> # Slide 13 [Reduces risk of legal action]: - "reducing the risk of legal >>>> action" >>>> I suggest changing the title of the slide to "other benefits" or such >>>> (as a follow-on from the previous slides), and mentioning some of the >>>> other benefits such as: >>>> - "demonstrating corporate social responsibility" >>>> - "complying with the UN Convention on the Rights for Persons with >>>> Disabilities (CRPD)" >>>> - "reducing the risk of legal action" >>>> >>>> I would just remove the third line all together and replace it with >>>> "protect against unintended consequences" and in the speakers notes >>>> add some discussion on eliminating customers, limiting information >>>> dissemination, the possible legal hassles etc. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Karl Groves<karl.groves@deque.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Sorry for the very late timing on this e-mail. >>>>> >>>>> The more I think about it, the more I think that having a slide that >>>>> discusses risk is like leaving a landmine of "fail" out there to get >>>>> stepped >>>>> on by the presenter. It can have a significant effect or it can be >>>>> like >>>>> "proving" that accessibility is nothing to be concerned about. I've >>>>> been >>>>> refining my own thoughts regarding risk, and I think the argument is >>>>> compelling for large organizations. Of course, the converse is true as >>>>> well. Risk for small and medium companies is almost negligible. If >>>>> these >>>>> slides are presented by someone without a firm grasp on the exact legal >>>>> landscape for the audience, it might work against them. >>>>> >>>>> Additionally, most of the litigation on web accessibility has taken >>>>> place >>>>> in the US, with a little bit happening in Canada and UK. The rest of >>>>> the >>>>> presentation is universal while this really isn't. Because this is a >>>>> presentation of the W3C, we may want to avoid being so US-centric here. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Karl L. Groves >>>>> Director, Training >>>>> Deque Systems, Inc. >>>>> Phone: 443.517.9280 >>>>> E-mail: karl.groves@deque.com >>>>> >>>>> Is a non-compliant website putting your organization at risk? Visit >>>>> www.deque.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > -- ------------------------------------- Kerstin Probiesch - Freie Beraterin Barrierefreiheit, Social Media, Webkompetenz Kantstraße 10/19 | 35039 Marburg Tel.: 06421 167002 E-Mail: k.probiesch@gmail.com Web: http://www.barrierefreie-informationskultur.de XING: http://www.xing.com/profile/Kerstin_Probiesch Twitter: http://twitter.com/kprobiesch ------------------------------------ *** Neue Veröffentlichung *** Barrierefreiheit verstehen und umsetzen: Webstandards für ein zugängliches und nutzbares Internet 812 S., Dpunkt Verlag, Auflage: 1 (März 2011) Kurzlink zu Amazon: http://is.gd/FIEntB
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