Re: w3.beta Comments for discussion

Hi Liam and Shawn,

Liam wrote:

>> Suggest:
>>
>> "The web should be accessible to everyone, including people with
>> different levels of vision or hearing, different ranges of movement,
>> different levels of literacy or cognitive function, different
>> software,  hardware or internet connection speeds.

Shawn wrote:

> SLH: We have decide to keep "accessibility" limited to related to
> disability. While I'm OK with having the first sentence broader
> (since it doesn't include "accessibility"), it seems it muddies the
> terminology to have software, hardware, and connection in this
> sentence that starts with accessible.

I agree with Shawn.

Adding the words "different software, hardware or internet connection
speeds" would be universality not accessibility. It  dilutes the
message of what web accessibility is about. Accessibility is about
ensuring that people with disabilities do not encounter barriers
through things that they cannot readily change. The danger of
distorting the meaning of web accessibility is that discussions can
quickly degenerate to pandering to people’s whims, rather than real
issues that affect people with disabilities.

We all understand the importance of universality to reach and serve
the widest possible audience; that is the goal - a goal that I whole
heatedly support, and while accessibility is an important part of
reaching the goal of universality, accessibility is by far the most
important aspect of universality.

Also the word "should" is normative. Is this a normative or
informative document?

>> The web radically changes the nature of disability - it removes
>> barriers  to communication and interaction. However, badly written
>> web pages or  technologies re-introduce these barriers.
>
> *EOWG*: please comment on above paragraph.

It would be more honest to say that "The web has the potential to
radically change the nature of disability if barriers are not
introduced". As it stands today, the web may or may not change the
nature of disability.

>> The W3C Web Accessibility Initiative works to help legislators,
>> programmers, developers, managers and site owners prevent such
>> barriers  reappearing."
>
> *EOWG*: please comment on above paragraph.

Suggest adding "Specification editors and working groups".

>> "Why: The Case for Web Accessibility ... [whole section]"
>>
>> Suggest:
>>
>> "Why make a web site accessible?
>
> SLH: Does posing this as a question suggest that there is any
> question -- you know what I mean?

Yes. In addition, if it is asked, people will pose the opposite
question. Examples from HTML5...

Canvas:
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/AddedElementCanvas#head-e376f307aa0d8348218514f256fa993421a3969d
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/AddedElementCanvas#head-c791faf6ba3a05eaa75bfc7c163bc026905f10ff

table summary:
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/SummaryForTABLE#head-222af24a2b1dcdc3afe5e3036551b70f99cf232c
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/SummaryForTABLE#head-222af24a2b1dcdc3afe5e3036551b70f99cf232c

alt:
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/IssueAltAttribute#head-2d23e2e37f68a6c480d88e0591a44b367ebe5dbb
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/IssueAltAttribute#head-897a0b632f584524f3904a0aa20adf57df210741

table headers:
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/IssueTableHeaders#head-f46084423854a83f7a08bd92cfcf691a11d23c91
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/IssueTableHeaders#head-28fdb1943d19f60750025e507ff376915cfc4e39

>> The web must provide equal access and equal opportunity to people
>> with  diverse abilities. Article 9 of the UN Convention on the
>> Rights of  Persons with Disabilities recognizes _web accessibility
>> as a basic human  right_.
>
> *EOWG* - how do you think readers will react to "The web must provide
> equal access and equal opportunity to people with diverse abilities."

Again is this a normative or informative document?

Best Regards,
Laura

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Laura L. Carlson

Received on Wednesday, 26 August 2009 13:21:38 UTC