RE: Using the terms "normative" and "informative" in EO documents

 Agree.

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>[mailto:w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of ext Wayne Dick
>Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:40 PM
>To: Gregg Vanderheiden
>Cc: EOWG (E-mail)
>Subject: Re: Using the terms "normative" and "informative" in 
>EO documents
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>Gregg's suggestion is probably the best of all.
>
>Wayne
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gregg Vanderheiden" <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
>To: "Shawn Henry" <shawn@w3.org>
>Cc: "EOWG (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>; "Judy Brewer" 
><jbrewer@w3.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:03 AM
>Subject: Re: Using the terms "normative" and "informative" in 
>EO documents
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>> Personally,
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>> unless we are talking legal issues - I don't think they are 
>important.
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>> For most people these are 'guidelines' that can be followed
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>> those that NEED to know the difference - probably already know the  
>> difference.
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>> so I would just not focus on them
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>> Gregg
>> -----------------------
>> Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>> Director Trace R&D Center
>> Professor Ind and Biomed Engr
>> University of Wisconsin-Madison
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>> On Nov 25, 2008, at 7:54 AM, Shawn Henry wrote:
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>>>
>>> EOWG and others who want to comment,
>>>
>>> Question for discussion on the EOWG mailing list:
>>> How much should we use the terms "normative" and "informative" 
>>> in  our basic introductory, education, and outreach 
>material related 
>>> to  WCAG and the other WAI technical specifications?
>>> Is it good to  introduce and reinforce these terms, which 
>are used in 
>>> the technical  documents, in our basic material? Or is it 
>unnecessary 
>>> to complicate  the our basic material with what is to some jargony 
>>> terminology?
>>>
>>> (Note that WCAG 2.0 itself provides definitions of the terms.)
>>>
>>> Background:
>>>
>>> Last week in discussing "How to Update Your Web Site from WCAG 1.0  
>>> to WCAG 2.0", we considered adding these terms in: "The WCAG 2.0  
>>> technical standard itself is a stable, normative document 
>that will  
>>> not change once it is completed. However, Understanding 
>WCAG 2.0 and  
>>> Techniques for WCAG 2.0 are supporting informative resources that  
>>> can be updated. As technology develops, they will be enhanced with  
>>> additional tips, techniques, and best practices." See the next-to- 
>>> last paragraph in 
>>> 
><http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/transition1to2/transition1to2-200811
>>> 21.html
>>> > for how it's formatted and linked.
>>>
>>> Here's an example of not using the actual terms: "Thus with WCAG  
>>> 2.0, there are extensive supporting materials, which are advisory  
>>> documents. The WCAG 2.0 guidelines document itself is the only  
>>> document intended to be a Web standard..." - 
>>> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/wcag2faq#docs
>>> >
>>>
>>> There are several places where we talk about the different 
>types of  
>>> documents, for example:
>>> * Overview of WCAG 2.0 Documents (old draft) 
>>> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag20.php
>>> >
>>> * The WCAG 2.0 Documents (old draft) 
>>> http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/wcag20-docs
>>> * How WAI Develops Accessibility Guidelines through the W3C
>>> Process:  <http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/w3c-process.php>
>>> * WAI-ARIA Overview <http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/aria.php>
>>>
>>> Your thoughts on whether or not we should use "normative" and 
>>> "informative" in some of these types of EO documents? If some but  
>>> not all, which?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> ~Shawn
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Shawn Lawton Henry
>>> W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>>> e-mail: shawn@w3.org
>>> phone: +1.617.395.7664
>>> about: http://www.w3.org/People/Shawn/
>>>
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