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Re: Training Resources

From: Carlos A Velasco <Carlos.Velasco-Nunez@gmd.de>
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 12:53:09 +0200
Message-ID: <39607095.8A3FC7B8@gmd.de>
To: EOWG <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>
Hi William,

William Loughborough wrote:
> 
> It has been pointed out (thanks, Carlos) that for trainers to have as
> complete a set of resources to use in their training it must be pointed
> out to them that, e.g. pointers to the WAI techniques documents must
> include caveats along the lines of the unfortunate "until user
> agents..." clause. I.e., browser incompatabilities that conflict with
> the urge to use CSS, etc. should be noted and updated as the conflicts
> ease.

The main barriers found to the actual implementation of
alternative design techniques using CSS come, unfortunately, from
Netscape 4.x. Among the biggest problems I found:
* All browsers: None or poor implementation of <object>
* All browsers: inconsistent implementation of margin, padding
* Netscape: lousy implementation of inheritance; it gives a lot of
problems when you try to modify characteristics of an element
nested in a DIV, SPAN or TABLE element, among others.
* Netscape: DIV positioned elements get all messed up when user
resizes the window. Solvable by reloading the page with
JavaScript, which depends on whether the user has JavaScript
active.
* All browsers: implementing LONGDESC looks like SCI-FI
* All browsers: different implementation of default font-sizes
* And the list goes on and on ...

A hope: Opera and Mozilla.

> 
> However this should not stop us from providing would-be trainers of Web
> authors and managers with as full a set of resources contributing to
> accessibility as is possible.
> 
> So when, as I'm sure you will, you contribute submissions for inclusion
> in the "resources for training" please include any notices of possible
> problems with their use.

I will try to make the previous remarks as structured as possible.
Last week I posted an excellent reference about actual
implementation of CSS2.

> 
> If we can find *normative* documents from other than W3C sources that
> might fill the instructor's tool box in this area, we should discuss
> whether to incorporate their intent and content or merely link to them.
> Several commercial institutions have policies and guidelines in these
> matters that may differ from as well as amplify our intent.
> 
> So this thread should be used to deal with: suggestions for further
> inclusions in the training resources list; caveats for the
> already-included items; discussions about inclusion of "outside"
> resources in connection with their probable worth and reliability of
> persistence; should in-line hyperlinks be to externals?

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Dr Carlos A Velasco
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