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RE: Re: Conformance use-cases

From: Richards, Jan <jrichards@ocad.ca>
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:38 +0000
To: "w3c-wai-au@w3.org" <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
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Hi Alastair,

I do think there is value in hearing about end-to-end solutions that are just missing a few things....

But that reminds me that we already have a "'Progress Toward Conformance' Statement" that could be used in this way.

So I am ok to leave "no-level" out of the Full conformance type.

Cheers,
Jan




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alastair Campbell [mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com]
> Sent: November 11, 2011 9:38 AM
> To: Richards, Jan; w3c-wai-au@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Re: Conformance use-cases
> 
> Hi Jan,
> 
> Ok, but if a tool does not support something required by ATAG, doesn't
> that make it a partial claim?
> 
> I just don't understand how you can make a full claim for a tool *and*
> not support something.
> 
> Makes perfect sense for the partial claim.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> -Alastair
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richards, Jan [mailto:jrichards@ocad.ca]
> > Sent: 11 November 2011 14:29
> > To: w3c-wai-au@w3.org
> > Subject: RE: Re: Conformance use-cases
> >
> > Hi Alastair,
> >
> > VPATs are a bit like conformance claims for Section 508. For each
> > criterion the claimant can answer "Supports", "Supports with
> > Exceptions" or "Does not support" and can then provide explanation. I
> > think this is valuable because it enables full disclosure even when
> the
> > software has not met all the criteria. If we maintain that Level A
> must
> > be reached to make an ATAG 2.0 claim, we're discouraging claimants
> from
> > this type of full, honest disclosure.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jan
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Alastair Campbell [mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com]
> > > Sent: November 11, 2011 4:31 AM
> > > To: Richards, Jan
> > > Cc: w3c-wai-au@w3.org
> > > Subject: RE: Re: Conformance use-cases
> > >
> > > Hi Jan,
> > >
> > > Still looking good. One hopefully quick question:
> > >
> > > It seems odd to be able to claim "Full" Conformance at "No level".
> > >
> > > I have to admit I'm not very familiar with VPATs (I read into it
> > about
> > > 6/7 years ago, but haven't come across them since). I had a quick
> > look
> > > again
> > >
> >
> (http://www.itic.org/index.php?src=gendocs&ref=vpat&category=resources
> > > and searching for: vpat "no-level") but didn't see any reference to
> > > that concept.
> > >
> > > Could you point me to somewhere or outline what no-level is aimed
> at
> > > doing?
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > -Alastair
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