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RE: Keyboard trap clarification for ATAG2

From: Richards, Jan <jrichards@ocad.ca>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 18:50:21 +0000
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Hi Sueann,

The WCAG 2.0 text always begged the question: “how is the user, who may think they are in a keyboard trap after trying the standard exit keys,  advised that a non-standard exit method must be employed?” I assume the answer is that because the content author knows what their content is doing, so they could include a tooltip explaining the situation.

In the case of an authoring tool, that works fine for the authoring tool UI...

but it’s harder to see how the authoring tool can inject exit method advice into content it is rendering when it can’t determine whether a keyboard trap will be present. All it can reasonably be expected to do is provide a universal exit method that will always work, no matter what the rendered content being edited tries to do.

That’s why I’ve proposed in the past wording such as a “known” or “documented” place.

Cheers,
Jan

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From: Sueann Nichols [mailto:ssnichol@us.ibm.com]
Sent: October 4, 2011 1:42 PM
To: Treviranus, Jutta (Academic); Alex Li; Richards, Jan
Cc: w3c-wai-au@w3.org; w3c-wai-au-request@w3.org
Subject: Re: Keyboard trap clarification for ATAG2


Seems cleaner to use the WCAG wording as Alex suggested.   I would not add the additional text Jutta is suggesting as I believe it is  redundant to the point of the topic.   But, I do think Jan's  suggestion is also a bit more clear.   The problem is, it does address the documentation requirement, but that should be covered through the requirement to document all accessibility features and keyboard definitions.

Sueann Nichols

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Alex Li <alli@microsoft.com>


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Re: Keyboard trap clarification for ATAG2


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Perhaps we can remove "of the page" and insert the words after components, "including editing views that render content that may have keyboard traps" and then use this text.

Jutta

On 2011-10-04, at 12:26 PM, Alex Li wrote:

> I don’t get why we are trying to reinvent the wheel here.  What is it about WCAG 2.0 2.1.2 that does not cover what we need here?
> 2.1.2 No Keyboard Trap: If keyboard focus can be moved to a component of the page using a keyboard interface, then focus can be moved away from that component using only a keyboard interface, and, if it requires more than unmodified arrow or tab keys or other standard exit methods, the user is advised of the method for moving focus away. (Level A)
>
> All we need to do is to remove the term “of the page”.
>
> From: w3c-wai-au-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-au-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Richards, Jan
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 9:00 AM
> To: w3c-wai-au@w3.org
> Subject: Keyboard trap clarification for ATAG2
>
> On yesterday’s call I said that I would take a shot at simplifying the keyboard trap requirement. It still says “documented”, but it is more clear that it only applies narrowly to editing views that render content to the point where keyboard traps become possible:
>
> A.3.1.2 No Keyboard Traps: *Keyboard traps* are prevented as follows: (Level A)
>     (a) In the Authoring Tool User Interface: No keyboard traps are present; and
>     (b) In Editing-Views that Render Content: If an editing-view renders the content being edited such that a keyboard trap might exist in the content, then the authoring tool provides a documented keyboard method for moving the focus away from such content.
>
> keyboard trap (UNCHANGED)
> A user interface situation in which a keyboard interface may be used to move focus to, but not from, a user interface component or group of components.
>
> Cheers,
> Jan
>
>
> (MR) JAN RICHARDS
> PROJECT MANAGER
> INCLUSIVE DESIGN RESEARCH CENTRE (IDRC)
>
> T 416 977 6000 x3957
> F 416 977 9844
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>
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