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Minutes from AUWG Teleconference on 28 February 2011 4:00pm-5pm ET

From: Richards, Jan <jrichards@ocad.ca>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:05:46 -0500
To: AUWG <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
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http://www.w3.org/2011/02/28-au-minutes.html

WAI AU
28 Feb 2011

Agenda

See also: IRC log
Attendees

Present
Regrets
    Jutta_Treviranus, Alex_Li, Alessandro_M.
Chair
    Jan Richards
Scribe
    Alastair

Contents

    * Topics
         1. 1. Note on what "not applicable" means and how to use it
         2. 2. Updated proposals on ATAG2 defns of author and authoring tool
         3. 3. Series of long-waiting non-normative (and hopefully minor) edits marked with a single "@":
    * Summary of Action Items

<scribe> scribe: Alastair

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0060.html
1. Note on what "not applicable" means and how to use it

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0052.html

<alastairc> The change (refinement) is making it clearer that a conformance claim should say when an SC is not applicable.

Resolution: All accept "not applicable" wording at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0052.html
2. Updated proposals on ATAG2 defns of author and authoring tool

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0053.html

<alastairc> \me just got static now...

<jeanne> ow!

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0053.html

good now

<alastairc> Q: Can we rule out lower level tools that can't be fixed later in the process?

<alastairc> Jan: Maybe needs another document?

<alastairc> E.g. Geographical systems that don't provide accessible input/output

<alastairc> Jan: Consideration about how to include 'author awareness' in some form. Will put this into a survey early this week.
3. Series of long-waiting non-normative (and hopefully minor) edits marked with a single "@":

http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2011/ED-IMPLEMENTING-ATAG20-20110228/

<scribe> ACTION: Alastair to look into other national standards links [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/28-au-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-324 - Look into other national standards links [on Alastair Campbell - due 2011-03-07].

@There are two ways to meet this success criterion. For option (a), the authoring tool renders the alternatives in conjunction with the rendered time-based content. For example, a captioned video would have its captions displayed when it played. This approach is preferable, since it does not require authors to switch applications. For option (b), the authoring tool may instead provide...

scribe: authors with the option of rendering their content in a user agent that is able to render the alternatives. While this is not ideal from a usability perspective, it is necessary because alternatives are sometimes provided in different modalities that authoring tools are not equipped to render. For example, an audio editor might allow authors to edit the waveform of the audio file and...
... render (i.e., play) the resulting audio files. However, the audio editor might not BE equipped to render video, so if an audio file includes an alternative that is a sign language file in video format, the audio editor will need assistance in rendering the file.

Resolution: All accept new Intent of Success Criterion A.2.1.2:
... All accept: Examples of Success Criterion A.2.1.2:
... All accept wording @Undo queue: An authoring tool saves author actions in a "last-in-last-out" queue.
... All accept: @The note acknowledges that there are automatic behaviors that may be specified by other parties, and that author actions may purposefully or inadvertently affect the accessibility of the content generated later.
... All accept: @Email archive: An automatic email archiving system automatically creates web pages from each email message that it receives. It has been designed to generate accessible markup, but if email messages contain accessibility problems, the archiving system is not able to rectify them.

@Social networking application: A social networking application collects some limited information from authors (e.g. name, gender, status updates, etc.) which it uses to personalize an automatically generated web application that meets the requirements of WCAG.

Resolution: All accept @Social networking application: A social networking application collects some limited information from authors (e.g. name, gender, status updates, etc.) which it uses to personalize an automatically generated web application that meets the requirements of WCAG.

JR: There is no judgement implied regarding the accessibility of formats?
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Alastair to look into other national standards links [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/28-au-minutes.html#action01]
 
[End of minutes]
-- 
(Mr) Jan Richards, M.Sc.
jrichards@ocad.ca | 416-977-6000 ext. 3957 | fax: 416-977-9844
Inclusive Design Research Centre (IDRC) | http://inclusivedesign.ca/
Faculty of Design | OCAD University

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> 
> There will be an AUWG teleconference on Monday 28 February 2011 at 4:00 pm -
> 5:00 pm ET:
> 
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> Editor's Draft:
> ===============
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2011/ED-ATAG20-20110211/
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2011/ED-IMPLEMENTING-ATAG20-20110211/
> 
> The dial-in numbers for Zakim are now:
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> Agenda:
> ========
> 
> 1. Note on what "not applicable" means and how to use it
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0052.html
> 
> 2. Updated proposals on ATAG2 defns of author and authoring tool
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0053.html
> Prev proposal:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0039.html
> 
> 3. Series of long-waiting non-normative (and hopefully minor) edits marked
> with a single "@":
> 
> - @U.S. Section 508 Standards
> - @There are two ways to meet this success criterion...
> - @Web-based WYSIWYG: A web-based WYSIWYG editing-view is implemented so that
> videos placed into the content are rendered. If the videos include captions
> these are displayed.
> - @Undo queue: An authoring tool saves author actions in a "last-in-last-out"
> queue. When the author "undoes" an action, the action is removed from the
> queue.
> - @The note acknowledges that there are automatic behaviors that may be
> specified by other parties, and that author actions may purposefully or
> inadvertently affect the accessibility of the content generated later.
> - @Email archive: An automatic email archiving system automatically creates
> web pages from each email message that it receives. It has been designed to
> generate accessible markup, but if email messages contain accessibility
> problems, the archiving system is not able to rectify them.
> - @Social networking application: A social networking application collects
> some limited information from authors (e.g. name, gender, status updates,
> etc.) which it uses to personalize an automatically generated web application.
> - @that authors are made aware...
> - @Warning when text is converted to graphics (meets (b)):
> - @Copy and paste as transformation (meets (b)):
> - @ Intent of Success Criterion B.1.2.2: The intent of this success criterion
> is to ensure that web content transformations intended only to optimize
> content do not result in the introduction of web content accessibility
> problems.
> - @Pretty-print: A "pretty-print" tool reformats markup code to make it easier
> to read by programmers. The tool never makes changes to the markup tags.
> - @Video compression: A tool that compresses video does not automatically
> delete text tracks or secondary audio tracks.
> - @ Intent of Success Criterion B.1.2.3: The intent of this success criterion
> is to increase the likelihood that text alternatives will be preserved by web
> content transformations. This is especially important because text
> alternatives, such as labels and long descriptions, can represent substantial
> investments of author effort.
> - @Save as HTML: A word processor includes a "Save as Simple HTML"...
> - @Intent of Success Criterion B.2.2.2: The intent of this success criterion
> - @ (e.g. an "Image Properties" dialog).
> - @Silverlight, Flex
> 
> 4. What to do about B.2.1.1 - hopefully there will be a proposal before the
> call.
> 
> 
> Future meetings:
> ================
> Feb. 28
> Mar. 7
> Mar. 14
> Mar. 21
> Mar. 28
> 
> Cheers,
> Jan
> 
> 
> --
> (Mr) Jan Richards, M.Sc.
> jrichards@ocad.ca | 416-977-6000 ext. 3957 | fax: 416-977-9844
> Inclusive Design Research Centre (IDRC) | http://inclusivedesign.ca/
> Faculty of Design | OCAD University
> 
> 
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