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Re: AUWG Teleconference on 8 February 2010 4:00pm-5pm ET

From: Jan Richards <jan.richards@utoronto.ca>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:45:51 -0500
Message-ID: <4B7069EF.90308@utoronto.ca>
To: "w3c-wai-au@w3.org" <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
Hi Tim,

Thanks for taking the time to do this - that storm looked like a nasty one.

My comments in-line....

Boland Jr., Frederick E. wrote:
> I started reviewing the first items.. I put comments after the respective items..
> 
> Best, Tim Boland NIST
> 
> PS - will try to join late if possible, but we had a big snow storm here, and need to dig out and do other activities.. Government is closed today..
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: w3c-wai-au-request@w3.org [w3c-wai-au-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Jan Richards [jan.richards@utoronto.ca]
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 11:03 AM
> To: w3c-wai-au@w3.org
> Subject: Re: AUWG Teleconference on 8 February 2010 4:00pm-5pm ET
> 
> Please look over the various proposals before the call and send feedback
> if you have any. Unfortunately, we didn't get things together in time
> for a survey this week, but here's a form you can fill out:
> 
> (a) freehand drawing term
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0041.html
> ===========================================================
> [] Accept the proposal
> [] Recommend changes (see comments field)
> [x] The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field)
> [] Disagree with the proposal
> [] Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group
> 
> Comments : how about "image creation/modification"?   Aren't we really talking about "images" here (pictoral representations) that cannot be represented in terms of a mathematical equation?   If I draw a circle, it can be represented mathematically, but a "street scene" cannot be?   It's not necessarily "pointing device", it's any device which provides "non-text" input?  Also difficult to define "continuous" - I could create a bunch of "points" in space - is that continuous?  

Not exactly....I'm tempted to say "analog" but of course everything on 
the screen is digital...but analog-like....so many small data-points 
that working at that level is impractical.


> (b) Rewording Guideline B.1.2 Ensure that the authoring tool preserves
> accessibility information
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0043.html
> ===========================================================
> [] Accept the proposal
> [] Recommend changes (see comments field)
> [x] The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field)
> [] Disagree with the proposal
> [] Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group
> 
> Comments:  "in a way that is available to end users" may be difficult to objectively test (seems somewhat general - nonspecific- and subjective)?

"Available for end users" is actually taken right from our current 
wording....but you have good point...

How about "is preserved as accessibility information in the output". In 
the intent we can be specific that this rules out sticking it in as a 
comment in the markup because that isn't rendered and is not typically 
considered accessibility information.

> 
> 
> (c) Rewording B.1.3.1 for clarity
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0044.html
> ===========================================================
> [] Accept the proposal
> [] Recommend changes (see comments field)
> [] The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field)
> [] Disagree with the proposal
> [] Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group
> 
> 
> (d) Hopefully something "Navigate by structure" wording in A.3.4
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0047.html
> ===========================================================
> [] Accept the proposal
> [] Recommend changes (see comments field)
> [] The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field)
> [] Disagree with the proposal
> [] Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group
> 
> 
> 
> --
> (Mr) Jan Richards, M.Sc.
> jan.richards@utoronto.ca | 416-946-7060
> 
> Adaptive Technology Resource Centre (ATRC)
> Faculty of Information | University of Toronto
> 
> 
> 
>> We are back to our regular 4pm start time!!
>>
>> There will be an AUWG teleconference on Monday 8 February 2010 at 4:00
>> pm - 5:00 pm ET:
>>
>> Call: (617) 761-6200 ext. 2894#
>> IRC: server: irc.w3.org, port: 6665, channel: #au
>>
>> If people think they will arrive more than 15 minutes late, please send
>> me an email beforehand.
>>
>> Agenda:
>> =======
>>
>> 1- Working through comments
>>
>> (a) freehand drawing term
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0041.html
>>
>> (b) Rewording Guideline B.1.2 Ensure that the authoring tool preserves
>> accessibility information
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0043.html
>>
>> (c) Rewording B.1.3.1 for clarity
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JanMar/0044.html
>>
>> (d) Hopefully something "Navigate by structure" wording in A.3.4
>> ???
>>
>> (e) Other text that needs finalizing...in the MASTER, search for:
>>
>> ---
>> A.1.1.1 Web-Based Accessible (WCAG Level A)
>> ---
>> A.1.2.1 Non-Web-Based Accessible
>> ---
>> Intent of Success Criterion A.3.1.4
>> ---
>> A.3.1.5 Customize Keyboard Access
>> ---
>> A.3.1.6 Present Keyboard Commands
>> ---
>> A.3.2.1 Data Saved (Minimum):
>> ---
>> A.3.2.3 Moving Targets
>> ---
>> A.3.2.4 Content Edits Saved (Extended)
>> ---
>> A.3.3.1 Static View Option
>> ---
>> Examples of Success Criterion A.3.5.1
>> ---
>> Intent of Success Criterion A.3.6.2
>> ---
>>
>> 2 - F2F planning: April 29-30
>>
>>
>> Future calls:
>> =============
>> Feb 15 - Holiday in Ontario
>> Feb 22
>> Mar 1

-- 
(Mr) Jan Richards, M.Sc.
jan.richards@utoronto.ca | 416-946-7060

Adaptive Technology Resource Centre (ATRC)
Faculty of Information | University of Toronto
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