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Re: [Fwd: [Bug 8522] Authoring Tool editing mechanisms]

From: Jan Richards <jan.richards@utoronto.ca>
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 11:20:37 -0500
Message-ID: <4B44B855.7000401@utoronto.ca>
To: Jeanne Spellman <jeanne@w3.org>
CC: AUWG <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
Hi Jeanne,

Fine by me.

Cheers,
Jan

Jeanne Spellman wrote:
> This comment to HTML5 from AUWG was rejected.
> 
> HTML5 says (in the section "Authoring tools and markup generators"):
> "Authoring tools are expected to come in two broad varieties: tools that
> work from structure or semantic data, and tools that work on a
> What-You-See-Is-What-You-Get media-specific editing basis (WYSIWYG). The
> former is the preferred mechanism for tools that author HTML, since
> the structure in the source information can be used to make informed
> choices regarding which HTML elements and attributes are most appropriate."
> 
> AUWG Comment:
> It seems subjective to prefer an editing mechanism. Perhaps this should
> be clearly marked as "informative".
> 
> Status: Rejected
> Change Description: no spec change
> Rationale: This isn't really subjective, it's simply a fact that you are 
> more
> likely to create accessible (and conforming) documents if you are 
> working at
> the semantic level rather than at a presentational level. I don't think 
> that
> softening this would be productive. Readers should be made very aware of 
> this
> problem with the WYSIWYG approach, at least until such time as the state 
> of the
> art in WYSIWYG editors improves significantly.
> 
> You can view the entire bug report here.
> 
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8522
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [Bug 8522] Authoring Tool editing mechanisms
> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:17:58 +0000
> From: bugzilla@wiggum.w3.org
> To: jeanne@w3.org
> References: <bug-8522-2553@http.www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/>
> 
> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8522
> 
> 
> Ian 'Hixie' Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> changed:
> 
>            What    |Removed                     |Added
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> 
>              Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
>          Resolution|                            |WONTFIX
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Comment #1 from Ian 'Hixie' Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>  2010-01-06 
> 12:17:58 ---
> EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are
> satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to 
> CLOSED. If
> you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, 
> please
> reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML
> Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and 
> suggest
> title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue
> yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
>    http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html
> 
> Status: Rejected
> Change Description: no spec change
> Rationale: This isn't really subjective, it's simply a fact that you are 
> more
> likely to create accessible (and conforming) documents if you are 
> working at
> the semantic level rather than at a presentational level. I don't think 
> that
> softening this would be productive. Readers should be made very aware of 
> this
> problem with the WYSIWYG approach, at least until such time as the state 
> of the
> art in WYSIWYG editors improves significantly.
> 
> 

-- 
Jan Richards, M.Sc.
User Interface Design Lead
Adaptive Technology Resource Centre (ATRC)
Faculty of Information
University of Toronto

   Email: jan.richards@utoronto.ca
   Web:   http://jan.atrc.utoronto.ca
   Phone: 416-946-7060
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