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RE: ATAG Comments

From: McMeekin, Ann <ann.mcmeekin@rnib.org.uk>
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:19:54 -0000
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To: "Jan Richards" <jan.richards@utoronto.ca>
Cc: <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>

Hi Jan,

Thanks for the explanations and clarifications. I don't see any need to
reopen the issue at this time. It could maybe be reopened if there are
public comments about it, but otherwise, I'm happy to go with the group
decision.

Ann 

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From: w3c-wai-au-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-au-request@w3.org] On
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Sent: 26 February 2008 21:44
To: McMeekin, Ann
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Subject: Re: ATAG Comments


(NOTE: Changes referred to will be put up on the site tomorrow)

Hi Ann,

Thanks a lot for your comments. My comments/suggested edits appear
in-line.

McMeekin, Ann wrote:
> I had hoped to get my action item done earlier than this, but
unfortunately I didn't have the time I had hoped to be able to spend on
looking over the guidelines in detail.
> 
> Here's what I've come up with so far, some of which might be down to
my "newbie" status.
> 
> 1. In A.3.6.3 it says: Options Wizard (user interface "chrome"):
Authors are provided with an accessibility option-setting "wizard" to
configure options related to Part A.
> 
> At the risk of missing something obvious, it wasn't clear to me which
Part A it was referring to.

JR: I have now added a link (updated in place).

> 2. In the success criteria for Guideline B.1.3 Ensure automatically
generated content is accessible.
> 
> Note: This guidelines does not apply when authors have specifically
allowed the introduction of accessibility problem(s) (e.g., by setting
less strict preferences).
> 
> Does this apply to all levels, or just Triple-A?
> 
> It seems almost like a get out of jail free card saying that the tool
doesn't have to conform if the user chooses to ignore it. It seems to me
that the tool should conform anyway, regardless of whether the user
overrides it or introduces errors to the end code after the fact. If the
point of the guideline is to ensure that automatically generated content
is accessible, should the user be allowed to choose a less strict mode
that would result in inaccessible content being generated?

JR: Good point. Generally, the group usually leans towards not overly
limiting author choice since it is realized that authors will reject
software products that they feel are too constraining. For clarity, I
suggest the following rewording of the note:

Applicability Note 1: This guidelines does apply to any accessibility
problems that informed authors have specifically allowed (e.g., by
setting less strict preferences) (see Guideline B.3.3 for more on
informing the author).

> 3. In Guideline B.3.1 Ensure accessible authoring actions are given
prominence it seems slightly odd that Higher Prominence for actions is a
Triple-A SC rather than Double-A - was there a particular reason that
this wasn't made Double-A?

JR: That was just the decision of the group. We could reopen the issue
before the last call.


Cheers,
Jan


> Other than that, after reading the guidelines a couple of times, they
seemed pretty clear, and where specific terms were used, the glossary
was very useful in clarifying things that I didn't automatically figure
out for myself.
>
> Ann
> 
> 

-- 
Jan Richards, M.Sc.
User Interface Design Specialist
Adaptive Technology Resource Centre (ATRC)
Faculty of Information Studies
University of Toronto

   Email: jan.richards@utoronto.ca
   Web:   http://jan.atrc.utoronto.ca
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