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Re: Minutes from AUWG Teleconference on Monday February 14, 2005

From: Tim Boland <frederick.boland@nist.gov>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:12:12 -0500
Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20050215083747.00b04b50@mailserver.nist.gov>
To: "Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG" <rscano@iwa-italy.org>
Cc: w3c-wai-au@w3.org

I thought we were referring to Sections 7.2 through 7.14 of ISO/TS 16071, 
not just to Section 7.2.
That was my intention, to point to 7.2 through 7.14.  In my copy of ISO/TS 
16071:2002(E):

  Section 7.2 is titled "General Guidelines", and has no entries labelled 
"primary: application" in my copy.

Section 7.3 is titled "Assistive Technologies, and Section 7.4 is titled 
"Keyboard-input configuration" (both
have no "primary: application" entries in my copy.

Section 7.5 is titled "Software control of pointing devices", and 
subsections 7.5.3 through 7.5.8 have
designation of "primary: application" in my copy.

Section 7.6 is titled "Display Fonts" and subsection 7.6.2 has designation 
of "primary: application" in my copy.

Section 7.7 is titled "Displays" and subsection 7.7.4 has designation of 
"primary: application" in my copy.

  Section 7.8 is titled "Color" and subsections 7.8.2, 7.8.4, and 7.8.5 has 
designations of "primary: application" in my copy.

Section 7.9 is titled "Audio output", and Section 7.10 is titled "Errors 
and user notification"; neither of these
have any designations of "primary: application" in my copy.

Section 7.11 is titled "on-line documentation and help", and subsections 
7.11.1, 7.11.2, and 7.11.3 are all
designated "primary: application" in my copy.

Section 7.12 is titled "Customization of user preferences", and subsections 
7.12.1 and 7.12.2 have designations
of "primary: application" in my copy.

  Section 7.13 is titled "Window appearance and behavior", and subsections
7.13.3 and 7.13.4 are designated "primary: application" in my copy.

  Section 7.14 is titled "Keyboard input focus"
and has no "primary: application" designations in my copy.

  Section 7 ("Guidelines") contains 7.1 through 7.14
mentioned previously.   I had assumed we were referencing 7.2 through 7.14 
(7.1 contains some introductory prose and is
titled "support for accessibility") in my copy.  I have been building the 
test suite based upon referencing 7.2 through 7.14.
I apologize in advance if I may have misunderstood the group's 
intentions.  Am I incorrect in my assumption?


Given the previous, if we reference ISO 16071, do we want to reference 7.2 
through 7.14, and not just 7.2?  If so, as mentioned
previously, in my copy there are some "primary: application" 
designations..  Or do we want to just reference the entire ISO16071
document (including all sections)?

Please advise..thanks!

Best wishes
Tim Boland  NIST

       At 11:21 AM 2/15/2005 +0100, you wrote:

>Sorry for late regrets. My notes about ISO follow:
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Karen Mardahl" <karen@mardahl.dk>
>To: <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
>Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:47 PM
>Subject: Minutes from AUWG Teleconference on Monday February 14, 2005
>
>
>
>-------
>Agenda:
>-------
>
> >>1. Beginning of revision of Guidelines based on reviews.
>
> >Most of call related to bug issues 976, 1120, and 1125, which all
> >relate to
> >ISO.
>
> >976 relates to mapping between ISO and ATAG. ISO has 2 priorities, we
> >have
> >3. ISO removed primary, so now there is only core and secondary. If we
> >remove primary, then we have the following mapping:
> >L1 - core
> >L3 - core and secondary
>
> >Question is: can we just say that L2 maps to core?
> >This has impact on TB working on test suite. TB will contact Roberto
> >Scano
> >for info on what happened to primary. JT will investigate as well.
>
>The "problem" is that we refer only to the first section of the ISO
>TS/16701:2003 Point 7.2 (General Guidelines) that don't have a Level 2
>(Primary).
>If we want to make an "ISO" Conformance with all the three levels, we
>need to refer to all the ISO TS/16071:
>
>7.3 Assistive technologies
>7.3.1 Use system-standard input/output (core: application)
>7.3.2 Provide object labels (core: OS/application)
>7.3.3 Make event notification available to assistive technologies (core:
>OS/application)
>7.3.4 Make object attributes available to assistive technologies (core:
>OS/application)
>7.3.5 Present user notification in a relevant manner (core:
>OS/application)
>
>7.4 Keyboard-input configuration
>7.4.1 General
>7.4.2 Enable sequential entry of multiple keystrokes (core: OS)
>7.4.3 Provide customization of delay before key acceptance (primary: OS)
>7.4.4 Provide customization of same-key double-strike acceptance
>(primary: OS)
>
>[...]
>
>
>7.14 Keyboard input focus
>7.14.1 Provide focus cursor (core: OS/application)
>7.14.2 Provide keyboard navigation (core: OS/application)
>7.14.3 Provide navigation to task-appropriate groups of controls (core:
>OS/application
>7.14.4 Retain input-focus location (secondary: OS/application)
>
>(Note: not all the requirements have been posted due ISO copyright.
>
Received on Tuesday, 15 February 2005 14:13:14 GMT

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