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Re: AUWG Teleconference on Monday, 21 June 2004 - Minutes

From: Jan Richards <jan.richards@utoronto.ca>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:14:20 -0400
Message-ID: <40D83EBC.8050200@utoronto.ca>
To: 'List WAI-AUWG' <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
Cc: Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG <rscano@iwa-italy.org>, Karen Mardahl <karen@mardahl.dk>

Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG wrote:

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Karen Mardahl" <karen@mardahl.dk>
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> Subject: SV: Re: AUWG Teleconference on Monday, 21 June 2004 - Minutes
> Hi Roberto
> It's my understanding that what Jan specifically wanted to ask WCAG
> about
> was - how to describe the red circles. E.g. sighted and non-sighted
> people
> could be discussing an illustration and a sighted person says something
> like
> "the red highlighted part is good", making a visual comment that the
> non-sighted person is not aware of. So I think we are looking for advice
> on
> how best to write these longdescs. Where is the fine balance between not
> too
> little and not too much? And how can we encourage good authoring of a
> longdesc?!

JR: What we need a style guide for writing all the short labels and long 
descriptions for our illustrations. The guide should cover all the 
different permutations, including the red circles, etc.. I'd like to 
have some members of WCAG (including Roberto) look this over before we 
make a big effort to add all the descriptions.

> Roberto Scano:
> All depends if blind people are blind since they was born or if they
> become blind. Btw, every blind knows what means "circle".
> I wanna suggest to leave only longdesc and remove [d] link that create a
> ripetition of links with the same link title and these are no good for
> accessibility throught screen readers (and, btw, we have "deprecated"
> them in WCAG 2.0 HTML Techniques).

JR: Agreed. I may leave some indicator to show which images do not yet 
have descriptions.

Jan Richards, M.Sc.
User Interface Design Specialist
Adaptive Technology Resource Centre (ATRC), University of Toronto

   Email: jan.richards@utoronto.ca
   Web:   http://jan.atrc.utoronto.ca
   Phone: 416-946-7060
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