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Re: Proposed changes to draft of the ATAG References to WCAG note

From: Jan Richards <jan.richards@utoronto.ca>
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 10:50:13 -0500
Message-ID: <3FCB6334.67CA794@utoronto.ca>
To: "'List (WAI-AUWG)'" <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
Hi Karen,

You were working from an older version of the references document. I had
proposed an updated version in:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2003OctDec/0040.html

However, I think your edits make things more clear, so I added them in
to the new draft and have attached the result to this message.

The reason that this document is contained within its own document
(intended to be a W3C Note), is that ATAG 2.0, as a W3C Recommendation,
will be a normative document. If we were to say tools can use WCAG 1.0
or 2.0 (when it comes out) and the WCAG-WG instead puts out a v1.5 or in
the future puts out a v3.0, then our WG either needs to put out an
errata document or publish again. Instead, we can publish ATAG 2.0
referring to WCAG abstractly. Then all we have to do is update this
small note when future versions of WCAG are released.

On the other hand, if it turns out that our techniques (also a W3C Note)
are aimed a particular version of WCAG, we may end up having to update
our techniques if the WCAG-WG puts out new versions. In that case, the
WCAG references piece might as well go in the in the techniques.

Cheers,
Jan





Karen Mardahl wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Just a clarification here. Were we supposed to discuss this or was it just
> supposed to be posted? I don't see any discussion, so I'll just say that it
> is trimmed nicely as compared to what is currently at
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2003/WD-ATAG20-20030722/wcagrefs
> 
> I speculated whether it could just be included in ATAG 2.0 and/or the TECHS
> 2.0 document. There is the bit at the beginning that states
> 
> <snip>
> The Authoring Tools Accessibility Guidelines v2.0 (ATAG 2.0) includes five
> "Relative Priority Checkpoints":
> <list of 5 items snipped out>
> These checkpoints refer to the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG)
> as the "benchmark" for what constitues accessible content. However, it is
> important to notice that the ATAG 2.0 guidelines document, does not specify
> a version of WCAG with which to conform. Instead, it is left up to the
> evaluator to choose a whichever version of WCAG (listed in this document) is
> appropriate for their circumstances. This should help developers conform to
> ATAG 2.0, even if they have been working towards WCAG version 1.0. In
> addition, if future versions of WCAG are released, it will necessitate a new
> version of this note, rather than a new version of ATAG.
> <snip>
> 
> That would mean this note does need to exist as an independent document.
> Couldn't it be trimmed even more to say that 2.0
> 
> "...includes checkpoints with "Relative Priority". These checkpoints refer
> to the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) as the "benchmark" for
> what constitutes accessible content. Note, however, that the ATAG 2.0
> guidelines do not specify which WCAG version to follow. The evaluator can
> choose whichever version of WCAG, as explained below, is appropriate for
> their circumstances. This should enable developers to conform to ATAG 2.0,
> even if they have been working toward WCAG version 1.0..."
> 
> Then explain how in 1.0 they have priorities and in 2.0, levels. Everything
> that comes after "...rather than a new version of ATAG." in Jan's original
> posting.
> 
> This could then be included in the ATAG 2.0 document itself, without being a
> separate note. Since [WCAG-REFS] is a reference item, the WCAG-REFS could
> just refer to the line in ATAG 2.0 where this text starts. Couldn't it?
> 
> Just my .14 kroners worth!
> 
> regards, Karen Mardahl
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-au-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-au-request@w3.org] On Behalf
> Of Jan Richards
> Sent: 7. november 2003 18:32
> To: List (WAI-AUWG)
> Subject: Proposed changes to draft of the ATAG References to WCAG note
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This document has been updated with the most recent WCAG 2.0 conformance
> scheme. A number of editorial improvements have also been made.
> 
> Cheers,
> Jan
> 
> --
> Jan Richards, User Interface Design Specialist
> Adaptive Technology Resource Centre (ATRC), University of Toronto
> 
>   Email: jan.richards@utoronto.ca
>   Web:   http://ultrajuan.ic.utoronto.ca/jan/richards.html
>   Phone: 416-946-7060
>   Fax:   416-971-2896
> 
> Resolving ATAG 2.0 References to WCAG
> Working Draft [Day Month Year]
> This version:
> ???
> Latest version:
> ???
> Previous version:
> ???
> <snip>

-- 
Jan Richards, User Interface Design Specialist
Adaptive Technology Resource Centre (ATRC), University of Toronto

  Email: jan.richards@utoronto.ca
  Web:   http://ultrajuan.ic.utoronto.ca/jan/richards.html
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