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Re: proposed re-wording of goals statement

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:55:50 -0400 (EDT)
To: Bruce Roberts/CAM/Lotus <Bruce_Roberts/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com>
cc: w3c-wai-au@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9906181455420.12150-100000@tux.w3.org>
This works for me.

charles

On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Bruce Roberts/CAM/Lotus wrote:

  
  I still think removing the word "will" makes the goals cleaner.  Here's my
  suggestion which also captures Jutta's change for the word  "create":
  
  The authoring tool is accessible.
  The authoring tool produces accessible content.
  The authoring tool encourages the creation of accessible content.
  
  -- Bruce
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>@w3.org on 06/17/99 10:11:39 AM
  
  Sent by:  w3c-wai-au-request@w3.org
  
  
  To:   Jutta Treviranus <jutta.treviranus@utoronto.ca>
  cc:   w3c-wai-au@w3.org, Unagi San <unagi69@concentric.net>
  
  Subject:  Re: proposed re-wording of goals statement
  
  
  It seems to me that there is consensus on goal 2 being stated as "the tool
  will create accessible content"
  
  Gregory has effectively proposed an extra goal - that the tool be user
  configurable, which I would express as the user having ultimate control.
  However I don't think that is necessarily a goal, since i think there are
  circumstances in which the user's control is properly constrained without
  having an impact on the reaching of our goals. We have checkpoints which
  specify where user control should or must not be constrained, and I prefer
  that way of dealing with it.
  
  So it seems to me that we have 3 goals:
    * The authoring tool is accessible
    * The tool will create accessible content
    * The tool will encourage the creation of accessible content
  
  (I have changed the wording of the second goal to match what seems to have
  been accepteable to everyone).
  
  Are these acceptable as the goals?
  
  Some pseudo-philosophy for people who want to read it...
  I think the overall goal is that people will be able to use tools to
  produce
  good content. We give checkpoints a priority so that developers know what
  they really need to work on, and what they can aim for next time (making
  the
  assumption that most developers will not actually do the complete job the
  "first" time). We explain how we are arriving at the priorities so that our
  process is more transparent, and to give enough information that the
  priority
  scheme can be applied to an unaddressed question.
  
  On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Jutta Treviranus wrote:
  
    With the present statement of the goals, did we lose the goal statement
    regarding the tool generating accessible content somewhere and what was
  the
    justification? Goal 3 addresses the prompting, education, verification,
    alerting etc that the tool must do, which is all that a tool developer
  has
    control over given that we want it to be on a user configurable schedule.
    The present goals don't address what the tool does without the author's
    explicit intervention. I would propose that goal 2 be that the tool
    generate accessible content.
  
    Jutta
  
     At 2:24 PM -0400 6/16/99, gregory j. rosmaita wrote:
    >The current (10 june) draft succinctly lists the goals of the AUGL as:
    >
    >-- begin quote
    >  * The authoring tool is accessible
    >  * Authors will create accessible content
    >  * The tool will encourage the creation of accessible content
    >-- end quote
    >
    >There have been strong objections voiced, particularly by Bruce Roberts,
    >to the wording of the second goal, and, so, as an attempt to address
  this
    >concern, I propose the following re-wording:
    >
    >--- begin GJR's first formulation of goals ---
    >There are three goals:
    >
    >  1. The authoring tool is accessible
    >
    >  2. The authoring tool will create accessible content by default,
    >     according to a user-configurable schedule
    >
    >  3. The tool will encourage the creation of accessible content
    >--- end GJR's first formulation of goals ---
    >
    >- OR -
    >
    >--- begin GJR's second (more verbose) formulation of goals ---
    >There are four goals:
    >
    >  1. The authoring tool is accessible
    >
    >  2. The authoring tool will create accessible content by default
    >
    >  3. Mechanisms for creating accessible content are controlled by a
    >     user-configurable
    >
    >  4. The tool will encourage the creation of accessible content
    >--- end GJR's second (more verbose) formulation of goals ---
    >
    >Personally, I like the brevity of my first iteration, but I think the
    >second (more verbose) iteration is clearer, inasmuch as it touches on
  all
    >of the points we are trying to express:
    >
    >1. the tool itself must be accessible
    >2. the tool must create accessible content by default
    >3. the tool should provide as much user-configurability as possible, and
    >4. the tool should teach authors how to construct well-structured,
    >   accessible pages, even if it does so in a subliminal manner
    >
    >One last note: Regardless of whether or not either my re-wordings are
    >accepted, I would like to "see" the list type used to enumerate these
    >goals changed from the current unordered list to an ordered list.
    >
    >gregory.
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  --Charles McCathieNevile            mailto:charles@w3.org
  phone: +1 617 258 0992   http://www.w3.org/People/Charles
  W3C Web Accessibility Initiative    http://www.w3.org/WAI
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--Charles McCathieNevile            mailto:charles@w3.org
phone: +1 617 258 0992   http://www.w3.org/People/Charles
W3C Web Accessibility Initiative    http://www.w3.org/WAI
MIT/LCS  -  545 Technology sq., Cambridge MA, 02139,  USA
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