Re: XML vrs SGML tools [was Re: Capitalizing on HTML (was ...)]

Len Bullar wrote:
> Matthew Fuchs wrote:
> > 
> > On the writer side, the writer only need learn HTML and can have a
> > fair idea of what the document will look like (esp. when there is only
> > one main browser available).  But with SGML/XML, the writer must both
> > find an appropriate doctype and an appropriate style sheet, or develop
> > them.  This can be, in and of itself, as difficult as developing HTML
> > and a browser from scratch.
> What we found was they shared the stylesheets.  Look at Jon Bosak, et
> al's
> DSSSL stylesheet for HTML in Jade.  Once written, it becomes a tweaking 
> process.  Moreover, since the vast majority of documents are of the 
> "box in a box in a box" variety, it is typically easy to adapt one 
> stylesheet of that variety to another.  Reuse is actually quite high 
> in SGML stylesheets.  This is exactly the same problem as using 
> textures and materials in animation (VRML, etc).  This gets solved by 
> freebie sites and low cost CD-ROM distribution.

Oh, I don't doubt it and it couldn't be any other way - not everyone
can rewrite the Web everytime they need a slightly different document
- I was referring to the "worst case".  In fact, the Web is pretty
much an example of that (shared DTD and mostly tweaking of 1
[Mosaic/Netscape] stylesheet).  My point was that XML will not
automatically make SGML as simple as HTML for either the browser or
document writer.  There needs to be a compelling reason to develop a
new DTD/stylesheet, which doesn't exist for Joe Homepage, after which
easy distribution can enter the picture.  I think SGML will eventually
push aside HTML for most Net applications.

Matthew Fuchs

I don't speak for Disney, and this message was probably forged, anyway.

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