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From: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:44:05 +0200
To: <w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org>
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RESOLVED: danc-02 as in 0027
RESOLVED: issue pfps-24 as in 2003May/0223
RESOLVED: issue pfps-25 as in 2003May/0225
RESOLVED: qu-04 as in May/0224
RESOLVED: To not accept webont-01 and stay with current terminology and
usage.
RESOVLED: to not accept vass-01

summary of actions:

Path to draft vass-01 response for the wg to send
danbri change rdfs spec per 2003May/0223
danbri edit as in May/224
danbri respond to qu-04
danbri respond to pfps-025
danbri respond to pfps-024
danbri ask pfps-11 for text he would prefer
danbri discuss #179 with peter concerning domains as well
danbri to respond to webont-01
jjc Ask WebOnt for clear request to RDF Core for review of OWL Test
jjc integrate value space of xml literal.


date: 20030606


Agenda:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Jun/0021

IRC:
http://www.w3.org/2003/06/06-rdfcore-irc


1. Volunteer Scribe
Jeremy Scribed

RollCall:
FrankM, Emiller,  PatH, GrahamKlyne daveb, jang
jjc bwm danbri
Mike_Dean jos

2. Review Agenda
Added: OWL Test Cases, Dürst Comments

3. Issue danc-02 Goofy Literals

   http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20030123-issues/#danc-02

Proposal in

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Jun/0027.html
proposed: jjc
seconded: gk
carried unanaminously
RESOLVED: danc-02 as in 0027


4. Elements from the xml namespace

Chair grants Dave editorial descretion to deal with this question.

5. Do we have a definition of Arc?

   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Jun/0015.html

Suggested text: 'predicate arc in the pic'
Also suggested:
when moving to the RDF/XML talk about predicates.


6. Issue pfps-12 lists are not well formed
(see later)


7. pfps-24 What is RDF Schema

   http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20030123-issues/#pfps-24

Proposal in:

   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0223.html
Proposed danbri, second PatH.
No objections, so resolved.

RESOLVED: issue pfps-24 as in 2003May/0223
ACTION: danbri to change rdfs spec per 2003May/0223

8.  pfps-25 Schema semantics

   http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20030123-issues/#pfps-25

Proposal in

   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0225.html
Proposed danbri, second PatH.No objections, so resolved.

RESOLVED: issue pfps-25 as in 2003May/0225

9.  qu-04 RDF/XML representation

   http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20030123-issues/#qu-04

Proposal in

   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0224.html

dave proposes this; danbri 2nds

No objections, resolved.
RESOLVED: qu-04 as in May/0224
ACTION: danbri to edit as in May/224
ACTION: danbri to respond to qu-04
ACTION: danbri to respond to pfps-025
ACTION: danbri to respond to pfps-024

10. webont-01 Rename RDF Schema

   http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20030123-issues/#webont-01


Discussion:
including:
[[
never using 'rdf schema' in noun form, ie avoiding talk of their being
things that are 'rdf schemas' (while leaving it in as a _name_ for the
basic rdf vocabulary description language defined by w3c, just as OWL is
the name for W3C's 2nd RDF-based VDL).
]]

Proposal: We do not accept this comment and stay with current terminology
and usage.
Proposed DanBri, Second gk, Abstain EM.
RESOLVED: To not accept webont-01 and stay with current terminology and
usage.
ACTION: danbri to respond to webont-01

11. Vass-01 Flat layering

   http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20030123-issues/#vass-01

Discussion of
   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0253.html


jjc propose to not accept comment,
danbri seconds
resolved unaminous

RESOVLED: to not accept vass-01
ACTION: Path to draft vass-01 response for the wg to send

12. Issue pfps-11 rdfs:comment implies entailments

   http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20030123-issues/#pfps-11

Discussion of

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0222.html

resulting in:
ACTION: danbri ask pfps-11 for text he would prefer

6. Issue pfps-12 lists are not well formed
   http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20030123-issues/#pfps-12

Peter has proposed some text he suggests he would prefer
   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-comments/2003AprJun/0179.html

Peter's suggested text does not describe the domain of rdf:first.

ACTION: danbri discuss #179 with peter concerning domains as well

AOB1 OWL Test Cases.

RDF Core will be asked for review.
Reluctance to review all the tests.

ACTION: jjc Ask WebOnt for clear request to RDF Core for review of OWL Test

AOB2 Dürst comments
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Jun/0023
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Jun/0025

Dicussion concerning reopening XMLLiterals ...

Discussion concerning advice at Cannes plenary
[[ Scribe note, i.e. these links found after telecon:
See:
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20020225-f2f/
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20020225-f2f/rdfcore-i18n-irclog
(critically 09:04 thru 09:12)
]]

ACTION: jjc integrate value space of xml literal.

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