- From: Dave Beckett <dave.beckett@bristol.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:15:27 +0000
- To: Steven Pemberton <Steven.Pemberton@cwi.nl>
- cc: Dan Brickley <danbri@w3.org>, w3c-rdfcore-wg <w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org>, HTML WG <w3c-html-wg@w3.org>
(Not really sure whether to continue all this crossposting, anyway)
>>>Steven Pemberton said:
>
> From: "Dan Brickley" <danbri@w3.org>
<snip/>
> There have been recent discussions about RDF in XHTML, for instance with
> Eric Miller, sparked off by http://www.dubinko.info/writing/meta/, and it is
> an agenda item at our coming FtF.
There is also a new accepted TAG issue on RDF in XHTML:
RDFinXHTML-35 : Syntax and semantics for embedding RDF in XHTML
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#RDFinXHTML-35
I guess we should tell the TAG about the various pointers/ideas
discussed here.
> One approach that has been discussed is a DTD-friendly encoding of RDF in
> XHTML. For instance: make the <meta> element actually a carrier for RDF, by
> making <meta> contentful, allowing an rdf:about attribute on it, and in the
> absence of an 'about', making the default the parent element.
>
> <warning class="strawman">
>
> For instance, instead of
>
> <rdf:Description rdf:about="http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-syntax-grammar">
> <ex:editor>
> <rdf:Description>
> <ex:homePage>
> <rdf:Description rdf:about="http://purl.org/net/dajobe/">
> </rdf:Description>
> </ex:homePage>
> <ex:fullName>Dave Beckett</ex:fullName>
> </rdf:Description>
> </ex:editor>
> <dc:title>RDF/XML Syntax Specification (Revised)</dc:title>
> </rdf:Description>
>
> use
>
> <meta rdf:about="http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-syntax-grammar">
> <meta name="dc:title">RDF/XML Syntax Specification (Revised)</meta>
> <meta name="ex:editor">
> <meta name="ex:fullName">Dave Beckett</meta>
> <meta name="ex:homePage">http://purl.org/net/dajobe/</meta>
> </meta>
> </meta>
I'm sure I've seen that idea before and it looked interesting,
although requires qnames which is a bit nasty - a new area for
(X)HTML?
Immediate thought - when the object of a triple is a URL, how can you
distinguish that from a string that looks like a URL?
i.e. a triple with a URL object (in this rdf/xml)
<http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-syntax-grammar> ex:homePage <http://purl.org/net/dajobe/> .
versus triple with a string object
<http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-syntax-grammar> ex:homePage "http://purl.org/net/dajobe/" .
how about:
<meta name="ex:homePage">
<meta rdf:about="http://purl.org/net/dajobe/"/>
</meta>
<meta name="ex:homePage">http://purl.org/net/dajobe/</meta>
and the former is needed in this example.
> </warning>
>
> Now, I can guess that you need yet another RDF syntax like you need a hole
> in the head, but the driving factor of DTD-friendliness seems to me
> reasonable, and the opportunity of having (an) RDF directly in HTML seems
> good for the potential adoption of RDF.
:)
> It would be good if we could discuss this at the coming Technical Plenary
> week; we had already pencilled in a meeting with you.
>
> a) When would you be available? We are meeting Thursday and Friday
> b) Would you be willing to extend the last call deadline to after the TP
> week, so we can take our discussions into account? (I realise you
> want to end before TP so *you* can use the meeting to go to CR)
Sorry, I'm unlikely to be there.
A further issue related to our use of <link> has been raised as a
last call comment:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-comments/2003JanMar/0221.html
with discussion of the link types. Can the HTML WG accept/check that
the ones in
http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-rdf-syntax-grammar-20030123/#section-rdf-in-HTML
are appropriate to recommend? We mention meta, alternative.
Thanks
Dave
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