- From: Graham Klyne <GK-lists@ninebynine.org>
- Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 11:18:36 +0100
- To: pat hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>, Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
- Cc: w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>, public-uri-cg@w3.org
At 18:38 04/04/2003 -0600, pat hayes wrote: >>On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 15:06, pat hayes wrote: >>[...] >>> But this IS a VERY big deal, and we should raise hell about it, and >>> not stop raising hell until this idea is abandoned. >> >>Er... well... if you have a suggestion as to what the spec >>should say, please suggest it (to uri@w3.org) and see what >>the editor says. >> >>If you don't get satisfaction, then perhaps raising hell >>is in order. But try the straight path first, OK? > >Ahem. Duly noted, tie straight, breathing normally. > >Will compose thoughtful and moderately worded English response when the >Irish subsides. Though, as Pat's earlier response [1] shows, the argument is not with any current URI wording, but with some proposed new wording that isn't yet on the table. Even Roy's new working draft [2] retains the old wording. When I "dismissed" this as a philosophical matter of little import, I had overlooked that several specifications, and (apparently) the official position, implicitly look to the URI specification for a definition of "resource". If that definition could be removed to some more neutral territory (e.g. the emerging web architecture document), then maybe that frees the URI spec to focus itself on syntactical aspects of URIs, and those resources that actually have assigned URIs? <aside> I think there has long been a tension that URIs serve (at least two) different masters: in the web architecture (wherein the concept originated), as a framework for universal identification, but within the IETF (who "own" the specification) I sense a broad view that URIs are some kind of glorified address. For many purposes, these are reconcilable views, but when issues like this come up one sees the fault lines emerge. </aside> #g -- [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Apr/0117.html [2] http://www.apache.org/~fielding/uri/rev-2002/rfc2396bis.html#rfc.section.1.1 ------------------- Graham Klyne <GK@NineByNine.org> PGP: 0FAA 69FF C083 000B A2E9 A131 01B9 1C7A DBCA CB5E
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