- From: Pat Hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>
- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:29:44 -0500
- To: Graham Klyne <Graham.Klyne@MIMEsweeper.com>
- Cc: w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org
>As I won't be there, can I request that a reference to this message >be entered into the IRC log of the meeting, for the record? > >>11: Postpone syntax issues >>The aim here is to quickly resolve those issues for which there is >>clear concensus. If extended discussion is needed, we will >>postpone the decision. >> >>Propose the WG RESOLVE that the following issues be postponed for >>consideration by a future WG >> >>See: >> http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-quoting > >OK > >> >>http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-qnames-cant-represent-all-uris > >OK > >> http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-replace-value > >[I missed this when it was raised] I like this proposal, as it >makes much more intuitive sense to me, and leverages existing >developer understanding of toString() in existing programming >languages. Assuming it's consistent with any decisions about >datatyping, I think there would be value to our current charter in >adopting this. > >To deal with backward compatibility, I'd suggest that rdf:value be >retained as a "deprecated" form, equivalent to rdf:toString, which >becomes the preferred form. > >Thus, my vote is AGAINST deciding to defer this issue to a new WG at >this time. I think the proposal should be accepted or rejected by >this WG. If it is being considered, then I vote to REJECT it, for reasons that I hope will become clear when I get the MT datatyping document finished. (Basically, the appropriate interpretation of rdf:value in the new MT is that it is simply identity, and the 'toString' name is then actively misleading. This view of the meaning of rdf:value has built into it a view about datatyping that I want to argue against, basically one which assumes that all literals occurrences are strings. I think that it only makes intuitive sense if one agrees to read all literals as referring to themselves, which, I will argue, embodies a use/mention confusion which is neither semantically productive nor necessary.) Pat -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- IHMC (850)434 8903 home 40 South Alcaniz St. (850)202 4416 office Pensacola, FL 32501 (850)202 4440 fax phayes@ai.uwf.edu http://www.coginst.uwf.edu/~phayes
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