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Re: Canonicalization of <SignedInfo> for Reference Validation (redux)

From: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd <dee3@torque.pothole.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:28:58 -0400
Message-Id: <200110121628.MAA0000047862@torque.pothole.com>
To: w3c-ietf-xmldsig@w3.org
cc: Christian Geuer-Pollmann <geuer-pollmann@nue.et-inf.uni-siegen.de>, Vamsi Motukuru <vamsi@phaos.com>

That would work but, even if you are very strictly following the Core
Validation Processing Rules, I don't see why you couldn't just use the
fragment URI to get the data from the original document without
plugging back in the parsed canonicalized SignedInfo. I don't see that
it would make sense for the fragment to point at or inside the
SignedInfo, although you should check for that and probably fail the
signature if you find it's set up that way.

Even further, it seems to me that most implementations will not allow
arbitrary CannonicalizationMethod elements and, in fact, all the ones
we have ever specified are such that you would not get in trouble
doing the Reference Validation on the original document, then applying
CannonicalizationMethod and doing Signature Validation, even though
that's not what the Processing Rules say and is not safe for arbitrary
CannonicalizationMethod elements...


From:  Christian Geuer-Pollmann <geuer-pollmann@nue.et-inf.uni-siegen.de>
Date:  Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:00:12 +0200
In-reply-to:  <001a01c152a9$1d64f1f0$38844ec6@starlan.com>
To:  Vamsi Motukuru <vamsi@phaos.com>
Cc:  w3c-ietf-xmldsig@w3.org
Message-id:  <2153432166.1002880812@pinkpanther>

>Hi Vamsi,
>you could take ds:SignedInfo, canonicalize, re-parse and substitute the 
>original-un-c14nized ds:SignedInfo with the c14nized-re-parsed 
>BTW, for your example, you need to declare the Signature namespace for your 
>--On Donnerstag, 11. Oktober 2001 19:04 -0400 Vamsi Motukuru 
><vamsi@phaos.com> wrote:
>> However, I'm still having trouble understanding how this would really be
>> implemented for same-document fragment Reference URIs where the
>> referenced  XML is a sibling subtree of the enclosing document. For
>> example:
>> <MyDoc>
>>    <ItemList ID="TheList">
>>      <Item num="001">First item</Item>
>>      <Item num="002">Second item</Item>
>>    </ItemList>
>>    <Signature>
>>      <SignedInfo>
>>        <CanonicalizationMethod> ... </CanonicalizationMethod>
>>        <SignatureMethod> ... </SignatureMethod>
>>        <Reference URI="#TheList">
>>          <DigestMethod> ... </DigestMethod>
>>          <DigestValue> ... </DigestValue>
>>        </Reference>
>>      </SignedInfo>
>>      <SignatureValue> ... </SignatureValue>
>>    </Signature>
>> </MyDoc>
>> When, at the start of reference validation, XML-C14N (or some other
>> canonicalization) is applied to the SignedInfo, the result is an octet
>> stream. In order to proceed with retrieving the referenced object and
>> calculating the digest value, the application will first need to parse
>> the  octet stream to recover an XML document with Reference elements in
>> it. This  results in a new document that does not contain the data object
>> identified  in the Reference URI. What now?
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