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Re: WindowsXP and double login challenges

From: Eric Sedlar <eric.sedlar@oracle.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 15:42:39 -0700
Message-ID: <035b01c4653c$dfd61950$20aa2382@us.oracle.com>
To: <w3c-dist-auth@frink.w3.org>, "Frank Lowney" <frank.lowney@mac.com>

This is basically a Microsoft problem not a WebDAV problem, which is why you
haven't gotten a response from a standards group.  Authentication isn't
actually addressed in WebDAV either, but uses the HTTP stuff.

The workaround I know of is that some vendors are including their
authentication information in a cookie, which takes advantage of the fact
that some of the Microsoft clients share the authentication information in
the local cookie cache, whereas the HTTP authentication information is not.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Lowney" <frank.lowney@mac.com>
To: <w3c-dist-auth@frink.w3.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: WindowsXP and double login challenges

> It's great to see that the WebDAV protocol is relentlessly advancing but,
as someone who is trying to get end users to embrace it over older, more
established methods, I have to wonder whether the basic aspects of the
protocol work well enough to assure a level of acceptance sufficient to
sustain the momentum.
> Take, for example, the query I posted here a week or so ago (quoted
below).  While it's difficult to definitively interpret a non-response, they
tend to be interpreted as: yes, that's a problem but there is no solution or
> So, if that is the case with Win2K / WinXP Network Places access to a wide
range of WebDAV-enabled servers where end users first and continuing
experience with WebDAV is a double login challenge, we should not be
surprised to learn that these end users are reluctant to consider change.
> >We are currently working with three WebDAV-enabled servers as follows:
> >
> >WebSTAR V v.5.3.2 on MacOS X 10.3.4
> >
> >Apache on MacOS X Server 10.3.4
> >
> >BEA Weblogic (supporting WebCT Vista) on Solaris.
> >
> >Using WindowsXP & 'My Network Places,' we and our various clients and
other constituencies are consistently seeing a "double login challenge" in
all three cases. We don't see this issue on Win2K Pro or MacOS X.
> >
> >First, can anyone confirm that this is a "Microsoft not following
standards again" issue?
> >
> >Second, can anyone suggest a work around that will unburden WinXP WebDAV
users from the necessity of meeting this challenge twice?
> >
> >Thanks for any light shed on this issue.
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