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Re: Issue: SOURCE_PROPERTY_UNDERSPECIFIED

From: Stefan Eissing <stefan.eissing@greenbytes.de>
Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:31:58 +0200
To: "Webdav WG (E-mail)" <w3c-dist-auth@w3c.org>
Message-Id: <C690BF5C-63F8-11D6-84D2-00039384827E@greenbytes.de>
I agree.

//Stefan

Am Freitag den, 10. Mai 2002, um 03:01, schrieb Clemm, Geoff:

> OK with me.  I'd keep it if we uncovered some interoperable 
> implementations,
> but without that that, deferring it seems like the right choice.
>
> Cheers,
> Geoff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Crawford [mailto:ccjason@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 6:52 PM
> To: Lisa Dusseault
> Cc: Webdav WG (E-mail)
> Subject: Issue: SOURCE_PROPERTY_UNDERSPECIFIED
>
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> One of the issues Lisa brought up below was not covered in subsequent
> discussions.  That issue was what to do about the source property.
>
> In fhe following recent post
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-dist-auth/2002JanMar/0351.html
>
> It was indicated that at the IETF meeting there was a proposal to 
> drop the
> source property.  Julian added that we can pick it up in the next 
> version
> of WebDAV.
>
> I'd like to mark it resolved that we will remove the source 
> property.  I
> would leave it up to our memories to bring the topic up again in 
> the next
> version of WebDAV if we value it.
>
> The thinking is...
>
> The source property is good.
> But it's under specified and needs work, no interoperability has been
> determined, and no one has been yelling for it.  If we remove it 
> from the
> spec now, the few implementations that support it can remove that 
> support
> and thus provide us a clean slate to work from when we take 
> another stab at
> the source property.
>
> Please speak up if you disagree with this or would like to add to 
> what I've
> said.
>
> Thanks :-)
>
> J.
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> If you're not on the IETF-Announce list, you might not have seen this
> announcement about the upcoming meeting in Yokohama.
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> To bring our "agenda" up-to-date, here's what I think the largest and
> hardest issues are for RFC2518 bis:
>  - Whether/how to change the If header rules and syntax
>  - Whether/how to change the source property definition
>
> Although the If header has been shown to be interoperable in its 
> simplest
> form with locktokens, it hasn't been shown to be interoperable in 
> its more
> advanced forms or with ETags.  The source property has not had any
> demonstrated interoperability to my knowledge.
>
> I'd like to encourage anybody with ideas on what to do with either 
> of these
> two features to make concrete proposals to the list.  If your 
> proposal is
> "leave things the way they are", I'd like to see some discussion 
> on how to
> meet the requirements for going to proposed standard (how to 
> demonstrate
> interoperability, and how much interoperability is enough).
>
> Another ACL draft is expected before the Yokohama cut-off, 
> therefore ACLs
> will probably also be discussed in Yokohama.  I'll be asking for a 
> meeting
> slot.
>
> Lisa
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