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RE: [ACL] Principal Identity

From: Daniel Brotsky <dbrotsky@adobe.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:29:15 -0800
Message-Id: <p05101020b821f5d8c86f@[192.168.1.4]>
To: "Clemm, Geoff" <gclemm@rational.com>
Cc: Webdav WG <w3c-dist-auth@w3c.org>
At 8:11 AM -0500 11/21/01, Clemm, Geoff wrote:
>I believe that when we revise 2518, that that the
>new DAV:allprop behavior should be defined to be
>"all live properties defined in RFC 2518 plus all
>dead properties".

This works fine for me if we allow for server "discretion" by saying 
"at least all live properties defined in RFC 2518 plus all dead 
properties."  Servers that *want* to show live properties should not 
be prohibited from doing so.

My motivation for this (other than common sense :^) is that I believe 
many generic clients use ALLPROP as a way of saying "show me 
everything I'm likely to care about."  Some servers will have a 
number of general-interest properties that are live and useful in 
such a list; for example, workflow servers often have live properties 
indicating status, assignee, and those kinds of things.  It would be 
awkward if 2518++ prohibited them from showing these in response to 
an ALLPROP.

     dan

>   Since 2518 states that it is *all*
>properties (both live and dead), making this direction
>clear now will allow clients to rely on dead+2518
>properties.
>
>Cheers,
>Geoff
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lisa Dusseault [mailto:lisa@xythos.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 1:40 AM
>To: Stefan Eissing; Jim Whitehead; Webdav WG
>Subject: RE: [ACL] Principal Identity
>
>
>
>
>>  The nice thing about allprop is that you get all the dead properties.
>>  The bad thing about allprop is that you cannot see if a resource is
>>  versioned/version or which methods it does support.
>
>How do you know you can get all the dead properties?  'allprop' as defined
>in RFC2518 seems to have to change, yet we've not clearly defined a new
>behaviour.  In the meantime, I don't believe clients can rely on getting
>anything back in 'allprop' except the live properties defined in RFC2518.
>
>Lisa


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