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RE: Resolving Digest authentication issue

From: Dylan Barrell <dbarrell@opentext.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 12:05:20 -0500
To: "Larry Masinter" <LMM@acm.org>, "Jim Whitehead" <ejw@cse.ucsc.edu>
Cc: <w3c-dist-auth@w3.org>
Message-ID: <NEBBIBDBCLDPAGPIKGMCKEGNEFAA.dbarrell@opentext.com>
If we have to choose one, then I vote for Basic/SSL/TLS

--Dylan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org
> [mailto:w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Larry Masinter
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:44 AM
> To: Jim Whitehead
> Cc: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Resolving Digest authentication issue
>
>
> > Thus, I propose the following authentication requirements:
> >
> > * Basic MUST NOT be used unless the connection is secure. Secure is
> defined
> > to be TLS over the Internet, a physically secure network, or a network
> > behind a well-administered firewall.
>
> In most IETF circles, it is believed that "well-administered firewall"
> is a fleeting circumstance: you might have one today, but it's unlikely
> to remain that way for long. It is also believed that the only
> "physically secure network" is one that you make with wirecutters --
> snipping all the cables, and that the specifications for things
> appropriate for those networks aren't the domain of the IETF.
>
> That's why, in general, no IETF standards-track document can assume
> such things. (If you want to deploy a system that makes those assumptions,
> that's fine, you just can't say that there's an IETF standard that it's
> compliant with).
>
> So I think the acceptable choices (as far as IETF goes) are:
>
> a) clients and servers MUST support Digest (what we have now)
> b) clients MUST support BOTH Digest and basic-with-SSL/TLS
>    servers MUST support one or the other (or both)
> c) clients MUST support one or the other (or both)
>    servers MUST support both Digest and basic-with-SSL/TLS
>     (since it is the server implementors squawking about Digest,
>      I don't think this will fly)
> d) There are two standards:
>        WebDAV-with-digest
>        WebDAV-with-SSL/TLS
>    An implementation (client or server) supports either or both.
>    The two protocols are not interoperable, of course, so you
>    should be careful to say which you have.
>
> In all of these cases, you can support other authentication mechanisms
> too, but it doesn't guarantee interoperability.
>
> I don't have a preference for what the standard should say,
> except that I believe that it's important that users should
> be able to tell whether a client will interoperate with a
> server without having to do some kind of protocol analysis
> to see which options each supports.
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