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RE: correcting incorrect version submission (WAS: Hierarchical UR Ls and Collections)

From: Paton, Jeff J <Jeff.J.Paton@corpmail.telstra.com.au>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 17:04:38 +1000
Message-ID: <40463261CEEFD111BD4500805FEA264712C9DD@pop-director.telecom.com.au>
To: "'Forde, Sean'" <SForde@filenet.com>, "'WebDAV'" <w3c-dist-auth@w3.org>
The error I was pointing was declaring lineage not version :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Forde, Sean [SMTP:SForde@filenet.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, August 20, 1998 9:45 AM
> To:	Paton, Jeff J; 'WebDAV'
> Subject:	RE: correcting incorrect version submission (WAS:
> Hierarchical UR Ls and Collections)
> 
> Regarding the statement
> 
> 	"people make mistakes and manipulation to correct the effect of
> 	incorrectly submitting a version needs to be available."
> 
> I must point out that such a mechanism already exists in WebDAV. It
> involves only resubmitting the correct version. To illustrate a very
> simple case...
> 
> 	1.	User checks in a new version (version 1.1)
> 	2.	User realizes that this was the wrong document to
> check-in.
> 	3.	User checks in a new version with the right document
> (version 1.2)
> 
> Not only is the audit trail preserved, but the the effect of submitting
> a version incorrectly has been corrected.
> 
> 	-Sean
> 
> Sean Forde, Software Engineer
> FileNET Corporation
> Bellevue, WA
> sforde@filenet.com
> (425) 990- 0308		
> My opinions are my own.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paton, Jeff J [mailto:Jeff.J.Paton@corpmail.telstra.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 1998 3:36 PM
> To: 'John Stracke'; 'WebDAV'
> Cc: Falkenhainer, Brian; Garnaat, Mitchell; 'Jim Davis';
> masinter@parc.xerox.com
> Subject: RE: Hierarchical URLs and Collections
> 
> 
> Architecting WebDAV to enforce the effect of the statement "declaring
> that
> version 1.13 descends from version 1.1 instead of 1.12, which means you
> lose
> the audit trail that versioning provides" is going to limit its use in
> the
> real world: people make mistakes and manipulation to correct the effect
> of
> incorrectly submitting a version needs to be available.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Jeff Paton
> Senior Technology Consultant - Internet & Intranet
> Technology Strategy & Architecture
> IT Services
> Telstra Australia
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	John Stracke [SMTP:francis@netscape.com]
> > Sent:	Thursday, August 20, 1998 4:10 AM
> > To:	'WebDAV'
> > Cc:	Falkenhainer, Brian; Garnaat, Mitchell; 'Jim Davis';
> > masinter@parc.xerox.com
> > Subject:	Re: Hierarchical URLs and Collections
> > 
> > Yaron Goland wrote:
> > 
> > > As such I encourage the various document vendors who need a flat
> > namespace
> > > to involve themselves in the DAV versioning effort and to ensure
> that
> > the
> > > commands and properties created by that effort are sufficiently
> > versatile to
> > > allow for arbitrary state graph manipulation.
> > 
> > But that would wreck the versioning system.  Versioning doesn't want
> to
> > permit
> > arbitrary manipulation of the version graph; versioning needs to
> provide a
> > few
> > well-defined operations (e.g., check in, check out) which manipulate
> the
> > version graph in legal ways.  Arbitrary manipulation fo the graph
> would
> > permit
> > things like declaring that version 1.13 descends from version 1.1
> instead
> > of
> > 1.12, which means you lose the audit trail that versioning provides.
> > 
> > --
> >
> /======================================================================\
> > |John (Francis) Stracke    |My opinions are my own.|I imagine the
> wages|
> > |Software Retrophrenologist|=======================/ of sin are death,
> |
> > |Netscape Comm. Corp.      | but by the time they take taxes out it's
> |
> > |francis@netscape.com      | just sort of a tired feeling.--Poundstone
> |
> >
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> > 
> > 
Received on Thursday, 20 August 1998 04:10:38 GMT

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