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Re: [Uri-review] ssh URI

From: David Booth <david@dbooth.org>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:55:59 -0400
To: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
Cc: Steve Suehring <suehring@braingia.org>, uri-review@ietf.org, uri@w3.org
Message-Id: <1255373759.5481.8826.camel@dbooth-laptop>
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 19:50 +0200, Eliot Lear wrote:
> David,
> 
> I see some definite negatives to what you are suggesting:
> 
>      1. Requires some sort of consortia or legal framework.

It does require something, but it isn't much -- just the maintenance of
a URI domain.  You could even base your URI prefixes on purl.org PURLs,
if want to permit the resolution to move around over time:
http://purl.org/docs/index.html

>      1. Requires an additional resolution.  SSH is commonly used for
>         administration, and so I would be loathe to add that sort of
>         step.

No, it doesn't *require* an additional resolution.  The additional
resolution only comes into play as a fallback, if the client doesn't
know how to handle them as special SSH URIs.  

>      1. Requires ssh applications to understand HTTP URI schema.

No, they just need to know to recognize the special SSH HTTP URI prefix,
which might be something like "http://sshuri.org/".  This is no
different in principle from recognizing the special "ssh:" URI prefix if
a new scheme is used.

David Booth

> Or do I misread what you are suggesting?
> 
> Eliot
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/12/09 7:01 PM, David Booth wrote: 
> > I don't see a need to define a new URI scheme for this.  You can just
> > define an http URI prefix for this purpose, as described in
> > http://dbooth.org/2006/urn2http/
> > 
> > Furthermore, as Graham Klyne suggested during a similar discussion
> > earlier, "an HTTP URI can also retrieve a protocol [handler]
> > implementation"
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/uri/2009Sep/0029.html
> > This could dramatically improve the adoption rate of a new protocol.
> > 
> > David Booth
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 11:01 -0500, Steve Suehring wrote:
> >   
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > Attached is a draft to be submitted to the IETF for URI scheme related 
> > > to secure shell (ssh).  The draft was originally included in the secsh 
> > > Working Group which has since concluded.  
> > > 
> > > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/secsh/draft-ietf-secsh-scp-sftp-ssh-uri/
> > > 
> > > I recently received a request to pick this draft back up and the 
> > > co-author and I will be submitting it to the IETF under the Application 
> > > Area.
> > > 
> > > Please provide feedback as appropriate.
> > > 
> > > Thank you for your time.
> > > 
> > > Steve Suehring
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Uri-review mailing list
> > > Uri-review@ietf.org
> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/uri-review
> > >     
> 
-- 
David Booth, Ph.D.
Cleveland Clinic (contractor)

Opinions expressed herein are those of the author and do not necessarily
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