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RE: remove dot segment

From: Martin Balaz <balaz@ii.fmph.uniba.sk>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:54:35 -0000
To: <uri@w3.org>
Cc: "'Graham Klyne'" <GK@ninebynine.org>
Message-Id: <20041119115438.76C35189C8@danka.ii.fmph.uniba.sk>

Why do you consider the results ("f:/g" and "f://example.org/base/b/c/d/e")
to be not intuitive?

[[
testRelative84 = testRelJoin "testRelative84"
                     "f:/a" ".//g"
                     "f://g"
]]

If we take another example closer to the real world ;), by ex.
"file:/index.php" and ".//images":
In the UNIX systems and also in the Windows systems path ".//images" is
equivalent with the path "./images". Dot segment "." means current directory
and thefore "file:/images" is exactly the result I expect.
Similarly the second example.

I agree that prefixes of the form "./" or "/./" can solve the segment
problem, but:

[[
file:/x/..//y
result you suggest: file:/./y
]]

If you apply the remove_dot_segments second time, you get the result
"file:/y". It would be nice to have property
remove_dot_segments(remove_dot_segments(Path)) = remove_dot_segments(Path).
And if the empty segment in the beginning is equivalent with the dot segment
"." (which can be removed), why not in the rest of the path?

Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Klyne [mailto:GK@ninebynine.org] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:52 AM
To: Martin Balaz; uri@w3.org
Subject: Re: remove dot segment

At 17:17 18/11/04 +0000, Martin Balaz wrote:

>I would like to discuss one old problem of the remove_dot_segments
function,
>which is not yet solved as I know.
>
>Following URIs are valid with the respect to the latest rfc2396bis:
>
>file:/x/..//y
>         scheme = "file"
>         authority = not defined
>         path = "/x/..//y"
>         query = not defined
>         fragment = not defined
>
>file:x/..//y/
>         scheme = "file"
>         authority = not defined
>         path = "x/..//y/"
>         query = not defined
>         fragment = not defined
>
>The result of applying the remove_dot_segments function is in the first
case
>"file://y". Segment "y" is considered to be an authority instead a segment
>of the path "//y".
>The result in the second case is "file:/y/", where the path "/y/" is an
>absolute path. It is not a relative path beginning with an empty segment
(in
>addition this is not allowed).

My implementation, which I believe to be closely based on the current spec, 
also yields these results, which do seem to be counterintuitive:

[[
tn06str = "file:/x/..//y"
tn06nrm = "file://y"

tn07str = "file:x/..//y/"
tn07nrm = "file:/y/"
]]

I tried experimenting with the fix you suggest... it achieved the suggested 
result for the above test cases, but it also broke two other test cases:

[[
testRelative84 = testRelJoin "testRelative84"
                     "f:/a" ".//g"
                     "f://g"
]]
yields "f:/g".
(hmmm... the original is also arguably incorrect.)

[[
testRelative85 = testRelJoin "testRelative85"
                     "f://example.org/base/a" "b/c//d/e"
                     "f://example.org/base/b/c//d/e"
]]
yields "f://example.org/base/b/c/d/e"

...

I'm not yet sure what would be the best way to resolve this.

Two other suggestions for consideration:
(a) any path starting with '//' be preceded by ./, giving .///
(b) apply (a) only when the authority component is absent.

#g
--

>I suggest to treat with the empty segments of the form "//" in the same way
>as with the segments "/./". If we replace in the input buffer every
>occurence of "//" by "/./" before applying the remove_dot_segments
function,
>we get the intuitive result "file:/y" for the first case and "file:y/" for
>the second. Other empty segments not appearing at the beginning, which
don't
>cause in general any troubles, are of course removed too. Empty segment at
>the end of the path is the only one exception.
>
>This approach solves problem with empty segment at the beginning of the
path
>and introduces a normalization form for URIs, which don't contain empty
>segments.
>
>Problem can occur only if for another schemes does not hold that empty
>segments have the same meaning as dot segments.
>
>Martin

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