Re: ReSpec toolchain...

Marcos

Thanks for the interesting references regarding percentages that have Javascript disabled. Higher than I expected, I guess a testament to the fact that people will avoid learning or setting preferences if they don’t need to.

Of course I know there is no ‘law’, as you say, once a tipping point of content is reached then thats it.

How much chance of breakage is there with old documents assuming old interfaces (in particular for ReSpec)? My tentative answer is that ReSpec has stabilized since the big update Robin made ages ago (which did have some upgrade issues, as expected given the newness of the entire endeavor).

Thanks!

regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch, Nokia
@fjhirsch



On Jul 14, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Marcos Caceres <w3c@marcosc.com> wrote:

> 
> On July 14, 2014 at 2:47:18 PM, Frederick Hirsch (w3c@fjhirsch.com) wrote:
>> is there a law or regulation that requires scripting for the web?
> 
> The Web is not governed by any jurisdiction. Also, that wouldn't make any sense: any such law (or the opposite - i.e., that a page must work without JS) would be very misguided and grossly obsolete nowadays. 
> 
> There were a bunch of well-intentioned laws around accessibility back in the early 2000's, but I don't think they were ever legally enforced - but they were followed to a degree (though many governments continue to publish stuff using Word Docs, PDFs, and use Java applets... pfff).
> 
>> Who enforces this?
> 
> Content enforces this. The most popular study of this that I know of is from 2010 (grossly out of date now), where Yahoo! found that only around 1% of users have JS disabled for their properties:
> 
> "Percentage of users with JavaScript disabled, by country. United States: 2.06%, United Kingdom: 1.29%, France: 1.46%, Spain: 1.28%, Brazil: 0.26%". [1]
> 
> Other sites claim that "JavaScript is used by 88.1% of all the websites." [2]
> 
> In a 2013 UK Gov. study [3], they found that for them it's 1.1%. They found that only 0.2% (!!!!!1!one!) have JS disabled. Yes, please read that again: 0.2%.
> 
> It is likely that by now that number is even less. In the W3C community, and amongst those that actually read specs it's probably 0.00001%. 
> 
>> Isn’t there a lot of legacy of both sites and devices?
> 
> Not that I know of (at least, I've never seen any data that). Who is seriously reading specs on an old Nokia?:)
> 
> 
> [1] https://developer.yahoo.com/blogs/ydnfourblog/many-users-javascript-disabled-14121.html
> [2] http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cp-javascript/all/all
> [3] https://gds.blog.gov.uk/2013/10/21/how-many-people-are-missing-out-on-javascript-enhancement/
>

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