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Re: [rfc-i] IETF RFC format <-> W3C pubrules

From: Paul E. Jones <paulej@packetizer.com>
Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 09:41:31 -0400
Message-ID: <4FAA740B.9070809@packetizer.com>
To: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>
CC: "julian.reschke@gmx.de" <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, rfc-interest <rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>, "spec-prod@w3.org" <spec-prod@w3.org>

But we could always add metadata to an RFC published as an HTML document 
if there is something we need, regardless of the tool used to produce 
the RFC.

What is that metadata is needed in the RFC, though?  I'm at a loss for 
that.  I see the value in having it published separately, as it's 
something I can use.  The one piece of data I find most useful (what 
RFCs updated or replaced a given RFC) obviously could not be put into 
the RFC.

Paul

On 5/9/2012 9:34 AM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote:
> You need it in the RFC (aka the published document) if you want it to be archived - since in that context, the property of "completely stand-alone" applies.
>
> Leonard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org [mailto:rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org] On Behalf Of Julian Reschke
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 9:29 AM
> To: Paul E. Jones
> Cc: rfc-interest; Paul Hoffman; spec-prod@w3.org
> Subject: Re: [rfc-i] IETF RFC format<->  W3C pubrules
>
> On 2012-05-09 15:19, Paul E. Jones wrote:
>> On 5/9/2012 9:11 AM, Julian Reschke wrote:
>>>>> ...which means: little metadata or no metadata to rely on, right?
>>>> I am not sure quite what you mean there.
>>> A way to programatically extract all the information xml2rfc captures
>>> for us, such as author names, WG information, "updates"/"obsoletes"
>>> information, references, ABNF, copyright status, ...
>> The RFC Editor publishes all of this metadata as an XML document that
>> is independent of any RFC. Why would we need to have this information
>> inside the RFC itself? And if we did, some information would still be
> We don't need it in the RFC, but it's useful to have. It allows you to run checks *before* the RFC is published. For the same reason it's useful in Internet Drafts.
>
> Furthermore, lots of the information I mentioned is *not* in the RFC database.
>
>> ...
> Best regards, Julian
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