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Re: Buggy language negotiation - w3.org/standards/webdesign/i18n

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:16:37 +0200
To: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Cc: site-comments@w3.org
Message-ID: <20110822121637764102.cea8b6e0@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Richard Ishida, Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:29:17 +0100:

> Leif,
> 
> Most of this email appears to be about 
> http://www.w3.org/International/tools rather than 
> http://www.w3.org/standards/webdesign/i18n


That is of course correct.

> Are you experiencing problems with 
> http://www.w3.org/standards/webdesign/i18n also?

Not at all.

But I also have same problem with this page, and a few others: 
http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/new-language-decl/qa-lang-why

 
> I believe have now fixed the problem with 
> http://www.w3.org/International/tools (missing .var file).  Leif 
> please try again.

I currently get a 300 Multiple Choices response, with this message: 

]]
The document name you requested (/International/Overview.en.php) could 
not be found on this server. However, we found documents with names 
similar to the one you requested.
Available documents:
	•	/International/Overview.html (common basename)
[[

Seems you have repaired it incorrectly, somehow.

Leif H Silli

> Ian,
> 
> The link on http://www.w3.org/standards/webdesign/i18n should point 
> to .../tools rather than .../tools/. Could you change that please?
>
> Thanks,
> RI
> 
> 
> On 21/08/2011 18:17, Leif Halvard Silli wrote:
>> An I18N article specifies: [0]
>> 
>> ]]   It is important to specify a default file, since a user who
>> doesn't have either English [ … snip … ] would otherwise receive a HTTP
>> 406 result (NOT ACCEPTABLE) rather than a file. [[
>> 
>> But here is one I18N page which doesn't follow this advice, and thus
>> causing problems: http://www.w3.org/standards/webdesign/i18n

>> 
>> Do this, to replicate the bug:
>> 
>> 0) Use non-English localization of Windows XP or Mac OS X (I tested
>> Norwegian localization of Windows XP as well as several localizations
>> of Mac OS X Snow Leopard.)
>> 1) Open Safari (Windows or Mac) or Internet Explorer 8
>> 2) Open the following URL: http://www.w3.org/i18n

>>     (You then land on the following URL:
>>     <http://www.w3.org/standards/webdesign/i18n>)
>> 3) Locate and click on the link 'Tools' (which points to
>>     http://www.w3.org/International/tools/)
>> 
>> Expected result: To see the content of the Tools page.
>> Actual result - Safari: '406 Not Acceptable' response with this message:
>>     ]]
>>        Available variants:
>>        * [link:]tools.en.php ,
>>                 type application/x-httpd-php,
>>                 language en, charset utf-8
>>     [[
>> 
>> Actual result - Internet Explorer 8: Also a 406 HTTP error message (but
>> with a message from IE stating that it cannot display the Web site
>> format.)
>> 
>> For Firefox I got the same, negative result as well, if I removed
>> English from the list of Accept-Language: languages. (I'm not sure if
>> Firefox, by default, include 'en'.)
>> 
>> Other web browsers should show the same result if you remove English
>> from the list of accepted languages.
>> 
>> NOTE: Due to a bug [1] Webkit (with Chrome as exception) only shows a
>> single language tag per Accept-Language: header.
>> 
>> 
>> [0]
>> http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-apache-lang-neg#defaults

>> [1] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3510

> 
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> W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
> 
> http://www.w3.org/International/

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