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Re: Definitions: Service and Web Service

From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:30:52 -0500
To: "Dunn, Robert" <Robert.Dunn@serco-na.com>
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Cc: "site-comments@w3.org" <site-comments@w3.org>

On 22 Jun 2010, at 11:15 AM, Dunn, Robert wrote:

> Ian,
>
> 	Thanks for the extremely quick response.
>
> 	The context for wanting W3C's definition of a service and a web  
> service is from an architecture viewpoint.  Firstly, I need to be  
> able to quantify whether the architecture describes services or web  
> services (or if both, which is which).  Secondly, it's rather  
> difficult to convince folks that a particular architecture describes  
> web services if the only definition for a service or web service  
> says something like "... is implemented using WSDL."  Finally, when  
> somebody asks what is a service or web service (within the viewpoint  
> of W3C) I need to be able to provide your definition.
>
> 	A more flippant response is: if I say "I'll Roshambo you for it" I  
> expect you will want to know if I'm using Eric Cartman's definition.
>
> 	Common definitions provide for common expectations.

Hi Robert,

W3C did publish this Web Services Architecture Note in 2004, but I  
don't now how relevant it is today:
   http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/NOTE-ws-arch-20040211/

There was a definition therein:
  http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/NOTE-ws-arch-20040211/#service

  "A service is an abstract resource that represents a capability of  
performing tasks that represents a coherent functionality from the  
point of view of provider entities and requester entities. To be used,  
a service must be realized by a concrete provider agent."

Views may have changed in 6 years, but we don't have an active effort  
to update this document.

  _ Ian

>
>
> Very respectfully,
>
>
> Robert Dunn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Jacobs [mailto:ij@w3.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:24 AM
> To: Dunn, Robert
> Cc: site-comments@w3.org
> Subject: Re: [Moderator Action] Definitions: Service and Web Service
>
>
> On 22 Jun 2010, at 10:19 AM, Dunn, Robert wrote:
>
>> Dear W3C,
>>
>>            Where on your site will I find the definitions for
>> Service and Web Service?
>>
>>            I can find how to define (describe) a web service and
>> countless use of the term service.
>>
>>            A W3C lexicon would be most excellent.  "Architecture of
>> the World Wide Web, Volume One" contains some good definitions for
>> the W3C lexicon.  A glossary would also be another best practice to
>> have in every W3C specification / standard.
>
>
> Hello Robert,
>
> We have this glossary, alas not actively maintained:
>   http://www.w3.org/2003/glossary/
>
> There is a search capability.
>
> May I ask in what context you are looking for definitions?
>
>  _ Ian
>
>
>>
>>
>> Very respectfully,
>>
>>
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