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Re: W3C specs reformatted

From: Ilkka Huotari <ihuotari@cc.hut.fi>
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 21:48:52 +0300
Message-ID: <004501c43f64$43c80d00$152ca8c0@X1>
To: "Janet Daly" <janet@w3.org>
Cc: <site-policy@w3.org>, <site-comments@w3.org>

Ok,

I changed the stylesheets back to the original in this one:
http://www.visiomode.com/docs/1/55/

I'm not sure if you are ok with that though:

(1) I need to include some CSS rules which are additional to your
stylesheet. They don't conflict with each other, but they are additional
rules, and I'm nto sure if that's ok. They are there for screen layout
formatting as the web viewer needs them.

(2)  "previous   next   contents   properties   index" ---- that one doesn't
work now as well as it could, for example at this URL
http://www.visiomode.com/docs/1/55/8073

(3) The URLs internal to the spec have been changed, so that they actually
work in this web viewer.

If the (2) is causing you trouble, I could fix that.

So... this is what I have now and sorry again for the confusion earlier.
Mixing legal terms and human of them interpretation may sometimes be hard :)

Ilkka



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janet Daly" <janet@w3.org>
To: "Ilkka Huotari" <ihuotari@cc.hut.fi>
Cc: <site-policy@w3.org>; <site-comments@w3.org>
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: W3C specs reformatted


>
>
> Ilkka Huotari wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks for the answer.
> >
> > Could they be published if I change the stylesheets to comply to your
> > standards?
>
> > There isn't any major reason to why I have changed the stylesheets - I
> > didn't know about those rules originally. So I could very easily change
the
> > stylesheets to the same what you have (they could be exactly the same, I
> > think).
>
> Ilkka, it may help for you to read the document license. Everything I am
> telling you comes from there:
>
> http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-documents-20021231
>
>
> "Permission to copy, and distribute the contents of this document, or
> the W3C document from which this statement is linked, in any medium for
> any purpose and without fee or royalty is hereby granted, provided that
> you include the following on ALL copies of the document, or portions
> thereof, that you use:
>
>     1. A link or URL to the original W3C document.
>     2. The pre-existing copyright notice of the original author, or if
> it doesn't exist, a notice (hypertext is preferred, but a textual
> representation is permitted) of the form: "Copyright 
> [$date-of-document] World Wide Web Consortium, (Massachusetts Institute
> of Technology, European Research Consortium for Informatics and
> Mathematics, Keio University). All Rights Reserved.
> http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-documents-20021231"
>     3. If it exists, the STATUS of the W3C document.
>
> When space permits, inclusion of the full text of this NOTICE should be
> provided. We request that authorship attribution be provided in any
> software, documents, or other items or products that you create pursuant
> to the implementation of the contents of this document, or any portion
> thereof."
>
> This is the policy for just making a copy with no modifications.
>
> So, if you were reposting the documents as is on your site, these are
> the rules you have to follow.
>
> > So... if this could help it?
> >
>  >
> > Thanks,
> > Ilkka
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Janet Daly" <janet@w3.org>
> > To: "Ilkka Huotari" <ihuotari@cc.hut.fi>
> > Cc: <site-policy@w3.org>; <site-comments@w3.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 8:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: W3C specs reformatted
> >
> >
> >
> >>Dear Ilkka,
> >>
> >>Thank you for your request. Susan Lesch of the W3C Communications team
> >>provided an earlier response, on the site-comments mailing list:
> >>
> >>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/site-comments/2004May/0051.html
> >>
> >>But what remains is whether what you are proposing to do complies with
> >>the Document License at W3C:
> >>
> >>http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-documents-20021231
> >>
> >>No right to create modifications or derivatives of W3C documents is
> >>granted pursuant to this license. So, changing the stylesheets and
> >>republishing them is not permitted.
> >>
> >>I appreciate your caution and request, but inform you that it is not
> >>possible for these to be published.
> >>
> >>Best regards,
> >>
> >>Janet
> >>
> >>-- 
> >>
> >>
> >>World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
> >>
> >>Janet Daly, Head of Communications
> >>MIT/CSAIL, Building 32-G518
> >>32 Vassar Street
> >>Cambridge, MA 02139
> >>
> >>voice: 617.253.5884
> >>fax:   617.258.5999
> >>http://www.w3.org/
> >>janet@w3.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Ilkka Huotari wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>This email concerns the reformatted W3C specs that I made. Only this
> >
> > late I
> >
> >>>am asking you for the permission to do/distribute those versions:
> >>>
> >>>You may (or may not) have seen that I made some reformatted specs of
> >
> > HTML
> >
> >>>4.01, CSS 1, 2, 2.1 specs. The url was http://www.visiomode.com/docs/
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>there were CHMs and web versions.
> >>>
> >>>I just found out that I didn't follow the proper procedure to publish
> >
> > these
> >
> >>>and I want to say that I'm sorry and express my apologies. I did read
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>document use statement which was linked from HTML 4.01 mainpage, but
> >
> > maybe I
> >
> >>>should have been more careful. Your statement
> >>>(http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/copyright-documents-19990405)
grants
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>use and distribution but maybe I was crossing the line with the
> >
> > reformatted
> >
> >>>versions, although I didn't change the content/HTML code.
> >>>
> >>>I made CHMs and web versions, so maybe my versions were actually
> >
> > derivatives
> >
> >>>and not only distribution of your material.
> >>>
> >>>So, I want to now ask for your permission to do the conversion (well,
> >
> > it's
> >
> >>>already done), and the permission of distribution. If you haven't seen
> >
> > these
> >
> >>>reformatted specs, I can email them/put them somewhere for you to view.
> >>>
> >>>There is a discussion at alt.html wth the subject line "W3C specs
> >>>reformatted."
> >>>
> >>>So, sorry again for my hasty actions... I tried to follow the right
> >>>procedure, but apparently I made an error.
> >>>
> >>>Ilkka Huotari
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> -- 
>
>
> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
>
> Janet Daly, Head of Communications
> MIT/CSAIL, Building 32-G518
> 32 Vassar Street
> Cambridge, MA 02139
>
> voice: 617.253.5884
> fax:   617.258.5999
> http://www.w3.org/
> janet@w3.org
>
>
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