- From: Valentina Presutti <valentina.presutti@cnr.it>
- Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 11:26:16 +0200
- To: Mike Bergman <mike@mkbergman.com>
- Cc: Axel Polleres <axel.polleres@wu.ac.at>, William Waites <wwaites@tardis.ed.ac.uk>, Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com>, Joshua Shinavier <joshsh@uber.com>, Juan Sequeda <juanfederico@gmail.com>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
I’d like to point out that the seminar was organised because there is a feeling that KG are not enough/adequate, as they currently are, and that there’s the need of a paradigm shift. Said that they have value both for their scale and for a number of applications that have enabled and that didn’t exist before. The seminar was attended by experts of different areas (all of them prominent (or very promising juniors researchers) that confronted for a whole week in dedicated working groups as well as in very alive plenary discussions. Hence the report reflects a variety of perspectives. From one of the first pages in the report: "For example, current knowledge graphs fall short on representing time, versioning, probability, fuzziness, context, reification, and handling inconsistency among others. New generations of knowledge graph models should explain/describe/implement these and other aspects of the structure of “knowledge & data at scale”” is just one of many sentences that account for KG shortcomings and precede reflections about possible directions of research to overcome them. A Dagstuhl seminar is not meant to solve such big issues, also because this would be quite impressive in only one week! Nevertheless, this seminar produced a very useful and inspiring report for the community. Valentina > On 28 Aug 2019, at 10:35, Mike Bergman <mike@mkbergman.com> wrote: > > Hi Axel, > > I agree. The Dagstuhl report was most informative and I have used it on multiple occasions. I really do not understand the genesis of this thread. As I have written myself [1], KGs mean many things to different people, but properly constructed can be a most valuable form of knowledge representation. > > Best, Mike > > [1] http://www.mkbergman.com/2244/a-common-sense-view-of-knowledge-graphs/ > > On 8/28/2019 10:06 AM, Axel Polleres wrote: >> Hi William, >> >> Well, link works for me, but in fact that was the pre-print version of the report, the official link on the Dagstuhl page: >> >> http://drops.dagstuhl.de/opus/volltexte/2019/10328/ >> >> As mentioned to Paola (also by Steffen, implicitly) already: the idea of Dagstuhl - in my understanding and experience of the quite inspiring philosophy of this series - is to provide seminars that host deep, interdisciplinary and unprecedented discussions that ignite new research directions and poinpoint open challenges, allowing for novel even unfinished and maybe controversial/preliminary presentations and discussions, rather than solve the problems and challenges right there. The Dagstuhl reports are summaries of the ideas and directions that have been discussed at these seminars, rather to be understood as positions than as full scientific research papers... note also, that e.g. in comparison to other Dagstuhl reports ours is exceptionally long and detailed. >> >> (sustantiated and constructive) feedback indeed welcome, >> >> Axel >> >> -- >> Prof. Dr. Axel Polleres >> Institute for Information Business, WU Vienna >> url: http://www.polleres.net/ twitter: @AxelPolleres >> >>> On 28.08.2019, at 09:48, William Waites <wwaites@tardis.ed.ac.uk> wrote: >>> >>> I am curious what this exchange is about, but the link that Paola >>> gave that seems to be the source of the controversy doesn't seem >>> to like me just now. >>> >>> http://aic.ai.wu.ac.at/~polleres/publications/bona-etal-DagstuhlReport18371.pdf >>> >>> yields: >>> >>> Forbidden >>> You don't have permission to access /~polleres/publications/bona-etal-DagstuhlReport18371.pdf on this server. >>> >>> Am I doing something wrong? >>> >>> Bets wishes, >>> >>> William Waites | wwaites@inf.ed.ac.uk >>> Institute for Language, Cognition and Computation >>> School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh >>> >>> -- >>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in >>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336. >>> >>> >> >> >> > -- > __________________________________________ > > Michael K. Bergman > Cognonto Corporation > 319.621.5225 > skype:michaelkbergman > http://cognonto.com > http://mkbergman.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mkbergman > __________________________________________ > >
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