Re: Reminder: communicate constructively - Re: Newsletter & Call for Papers WebSci'18

Technically the Semantic Web Interest Group is out of charter and this list
is not governed by W3C Process (its members never clicked through any
agreements), but yes - Harry, no need for personal attacks here, rules or
no rules. I can also sympathize with those who have been on the receiving
end of Sarven's tireless advocacy. This has been a tension point around
Semantic Web more or less since academia noticed RDF in 2001 or so, which
was also roughly when 'Semantic Web' was claimed as a slogan by communities
for whom the 'Web' part was largely an after-thought rather than
foundational. Many working in academia feel very constrained by processes
and workflows beyond their control, and publicly shaming those who are
entangled with PDFs (and closed publishing) may not be the most
constructive way to move things along. Discussions here work best when we
can avoid us-and-them-ism and focus on common ground and interests. Phrased
differently, and less aggressively/personally, Harry's point about
mathematical markup could have been a foundation for collaboration rather
than fight-winning (as could some of Sarven's critiques too).

Dan


On 22 Feb 2018 06:20, "Coralie Mercier" <coralie@w3.org> wrote:

Dear Harry, all,

On this matter as well as all others we are debating passionately, it's
important to uphold the Code of Ethics and Professional Conduct [1] that is
in effect. It calls for civil discussion, for communicating constructively,
offering objective work criticism, etc. This is the standard of
conversation we expect and are serious about.

Section 3.1 “Individual Participation Criteria” of the W3C Process Document
[2] reminds that
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Participants in any W3C activity must abide by the terms and spirit of the
W3C Code of Ethics and Professional Conduct […]
}}

Thank you,
Coralie Mercier, Head of W3C Marketing & Communications

[1] http://www.w3.org/Consortium/cepc/
[2] https://www.w3.org/2018/Process-20180201/#ParticipationCriteria


On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:57:05 +0000, Harry Halpin <hhalpin@ibiblio.org>
wrote:
>
> As I have pointed out many times, […]
> So I basically consider it a solvable problem
> that requires real work, but until I see real work I consider Sarven’s
> posts to basically be pointless spam and borderline trolling.
>
> Since I have no desire to see spam in my inbox, I will unsubscribe from
> this mailing list quite shortly likely.

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