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Re[2]: [DBpedia-discussion] Refurbished draft thoughts...

From: Paul Houle <paul.houle@ontology2.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 18:16:12 +0000
To: "Sebastian Samaruga" <ssamarug@gmail.com>, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Cc: "W3C Semantic Web IG" <semantic-web@w3.org>, dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net, public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>
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------ Original Message ------
From: "Sebastian Samaruga" <ssamarug@gmail.com>
To: "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Cc: "W3C Semantic Web IG" <semantic-web@w3.org>; 
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Sent: 8/16/2017 10:41:24 AM
Subject: Re: [DBpedia-discussion] Refurbished draft thoughts...

>Hi again.
>
>Can anybody tell me if 'comparing' entities in an ontology is a valid 
>(type / attribute / instance identity) alignment method. For example, 
>could there be a way of calculating 'distances' in such contexts?
>
>For example for 'sorting' entities categories by types, attributes, 
>attribute values and subject identity (in a, for example, temporal or 
>other contexts).
>
>From the document:
>
>Functional properties: idempotence. Versions. Topics. Streams. Protocol 
>headers (ordered Etag: order relationship aligns contexts: attributes, 
>identity / types).
>
>In context of an attribute comparison: having same attribute / same 
>value. In context of type / identity comparison: being same type / same 
>instance.
>
>Comparison result values holds metadata (0 being equal, negative / 
>positive values indicating encoded 'distances'). Contexts (type / 
>instance / attributes) occurring in a (temporal /
>revision) context.
>
>Best Regards,
>Sebastián.
>
>Regarding square wheels, I'll give them time for the angles to get a 
>little bit smooth... Thanks to the examples given I think I soon will 
>get them much more round.
>
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk 
><https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk>
>
>Best,
>Sebastian.
>
>On Aug 6, 2017 3:39 PM, "Sebastian Samaruga" <ssamarug@gmail.com> 
>wrote:
>>Hi, thanks all for your replies. I'll be reviewing them carefully. For 
>>what I'm doing, I must admit, it seems to me now I was kind of trying 
>>to reinvent the wheel, but such a 'square' one. For some reason: 
>>ignorance, lack of domain knowledge, bipolar disease or whatever I 
>>thought the time has come for 'square' wheels with the Semantic Web.
>>
>>Apologies for the bunch of posts in which I *stated* this kind of 
>>stuff. While I'm sending here a last 'draft' for 'square wheels', from 
>>now on I'll better try to digest what is already out there trying to 
>>learn what I can from my web developer position.
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Sebastián.
>>
>>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk 
>><https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk>
>>
>>On Aug 4, 2017 12:46 PM, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com> 
>>wrote:
>>>On 8/4/17 10:02 AM, Sebastian Samaruga wrote:
>>>>Hi, I've updated my thoughts draft (in a very fuzzy and incomplete 
>>>>manner) with content I've pulled from my older drafts. I must 
>>>>apologize if the contents are not concise or clear as they should. I 
>>>>didn't have much time for cleaning up things.
>>>>
>>>>But if reading between lines is possible: I try to state the 
>>>>possibility of a 'Node' based SW as an approach of making 
>>>>'applications' as the 'server/browser/content-type' approach was 
>>>>best suitable for a Web of 'documents'.
>>>>
>>>>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk 
>>>><https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk>
>>>>
>>>>Kind regards,
>>>>Sebastian.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Sebastian,
>>>
>>>Please take time to digest:
>>>
>>>[1] 
>>>https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/swagger-the-api-economy-rest-linked-data-and-a-semantic-web-9d6839dae65a 
>>><https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/swagger-the-api-economy-rest-linked-data-and-a-semantic-web-9d6839dae65a> 
>>>-- covers REST, MVC, and a Semantic Web of Linked Data
>>>
>>>[2] 
>>>http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2015/07/conceptual-data-virtualization-across.html 
>>><http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2015/07/conceptual-data-virtualization-across.html> 
>>>-- Conceptual Data Virtualization
>>>
>>>[3] 
>>>https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/simple-youid-browser-extension-usage-exercise-57fa3ff6c6b7 
>>><https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/simple-youid-browser-extension-usage-exercise-57fa3ff6c6b7> 
>>>-- Simple YouID Exercise (re. verifiable identity that scales to the 
>>>Web).
>>>
>>>All of the posts above cover application of existing open standards 
>>>in enterprise settings. Basically, issues relating to:
>>>
>>>[1] Identity
>>>[2] Identification
>>>[3] Authentication
>>>[4] Data Representation
>>>[5] Data Virtualization -- across disparate data sources
>>>[6] Data Manipulation .
>>>
>>>Kingsley
>>>>On Jul 29, 2017 11:53 AM, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com> 
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>On 7/29/17 2:05 AM, Sebastian Samaruga wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It's just thoughts about making what HTML did for 'web' 
>>>>>applications
>>>>> > but for SW (RDF) instead for 'whatever' applications...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > My point should be that SW should not have as much 'trouble' as 
>>>>>HTML
>>>>> > did for being useful having 'real' business applications (beside
>>>>> > academia) running on top of it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We could skip much of the cumbersome work that was trying to 
>>>>>build use
>>>>> > cases over a distributed *document* edition system (with all the
>>>>> > 'amendments' it imposed) trying to build applications over a
>>>>> > distributed *data* edition and linking framework.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > At least for what I know we only have (lots of) protocols...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 
>>>>>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk 
>>>>><https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best regards,
>>>>> > Seb.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Sebastian,
>>>>>
>>>>>HTML exposed the Web by way of User Agents (e.g. Browsers) that
>>>>>implemented support. The notion of a Semantic Web requires 
>>>>>extending
>>>>>said Browsers to understand other hypermedia document types, which 
>>>>>has
>>>>>also been the challenge for many years.
>>>>>
>>>>>While a lot of work has occurred re., building out the server-side
>>>>>infrastructure for webby structured data (using RDF Language and 
>>>>>LInked
>>>>>Data principles), the end-user productivity side of things has been
>>>>>playing catch-up.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway, here are some client-side related applications and projects
>>>>>aimed at building on the HTML+Browser foundation to expose the 
>>>>>virtues
>>>>>of a Read-Write Semantic Web of Linked Data:
>>>>>
>>>>>[1] http://osds.openlinksw.com -- Structured Data Sniffer Browser 
>>>>>Extension
>>>>>
>>>>>[2] http://osde.openlinksw.com -- Structured Data Editor
>>>>>
>>>>>[3] http://youid.openlinksw.com -- Verifiable Identity based WebID 
>>>>>and
>>>>>WebID+TLS protocol (while also supporting other authentication 
>>>>>protocols)
>>>>>
>>>>>[4] http://dokie.li -- Read-Write Editor and Social Sharing combo 
>>>>>that
>>>>>doesn't leave your work in a silo, while also leverage features 
>>>>>from
>>>>>items above (e.g, use of YouID)
>>>>>
>>>>>Screencast Demo Links:
>>>>>
>>>>>[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vOr6fthFB4 
>>>>><https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vOr6fthFB4> -- Taking and saving 
>>>>>notes
>>>>>
>>>>>[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-yrSU1qx4s 
>>>>><https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-yrSU1qx4s> -- Controlling access 
>>>>>to
>>>>>content derived from note-taking activity
>>>>>
>>>>>Links:
>>>>>
>>>>>[1]
>>>>>https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/semantic-web-layer-cake-tweak-explained-6ba5c6ac3fab 
>>>>><https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/semantic-web-layer-cake-tweak-explained-6ba5c6ac3fab>
>>>>>-- Semantic Web Layer Cake illustration tweak, explained.
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope this helps!
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>Kingsley Idehen
>>>>>Founder & CEO
>>>>>OpenLink Software   (Home Page: http://www.openlinksw.com)
>>>>>
>>>>>Weblogs (Blogs):
>>>>>Legacy Blog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/ 
>>>>><http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/%7Ekidehen/>
>>>>>Blogspot Blog: http://kidehen.blogspot.com
>>>>>Medium Blog: https://medium.com/@kidehen
>>>>>
>>>>>Profile Pages:
>>>>>Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/kidehen/ 
>>>>><https://www.pinterest.com/kidehen/>
>>>>>Quora: https://www.quora.com/profile/Kingsley-Uyi-Idehen 
>>>>><https://www.quora.com/profile/Kingsley-Uyi-Idehen>
>>>>>Twitter: https://twitter.com/kidehen
>>>>>Google+: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about 
>>>>><https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about>
>>>>>LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen 
>>>>><http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen>
>>>>>
>>>>>Web Identities (WebID):
>>>>>Personal: 
>>>>>http://kingsley.idehen.net/public_home/kidehen/profile.ttl#i 
>>>>><http://kingsley.idehen.net/public_home/kidehen/profile..ttl#i>
>>>>>         : 
>>>>>http://id.myopenlink.net/DAV/home/KingsleyUyiIdehen/Public/kingsley.ttl#this 
>>>>><http://id.myopenlink.net/DAV/home/KingsleyUyiIdehen/Public/kingsley.ttl#this>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Kingsley Idehen	
>>>Founder & CEO
>>>OpenLink Software   (Home Page: http://www.openlinksw.com)
>>>
>>>Weblogs (Blogs):
>>>Legacy Blog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/ <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/>
>>>Blogspot Blog: http://kidehen.blogspot.com
>>>Medium Blog: https://medium.com/@kidehen
>>>
>>>Profile Pages:
>>>Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/kidehen/ <https://www.pinterest.com/kidehen/>
>>>Quora: https://www.quora.com/profile/Kingsley-Uyi-Idehen <https://www.quora.com/profile/Kingsley-Uyi-Idehen>
>>>Twitter: https://twitter.com/kidehen
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>>>LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen <http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen>
>>>
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>>>Personal: http://kingsley.idehen.net/public_home/kidehen/profile.ttl#i <http://kingsley.idehen.net/public_home/kidehen/profile.ttl#i>
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