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Re: [DBpedia-discussion] Refurbished draft thoughts...

From: Sebastian Samaruga <ssamarug@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 15:39:08 -0300
Message-ID: <CAOLUXBvoW5LUeubCaiqyfocJxHWVST6HCyigEaEPSCvzVU7A6w@mail.gmail.com>
To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Cc: public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>, dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net, W3C Semantic Web IG <semantic-web@w3.org>
Hi, thanks all for your replies. I'll be reviewing them carefully. For what
I'm doing, I must admit, it seems to me now I was kind of trying to
reinvent the wheel, but such a 'square' one. For some reason: ignorance,
lack of domain knowledge, bipolar disease or whatever I thought the time
has come for 'square' wheels with the Semantic Web.

Apologies for the bunch of posts in which I *stated* this kind of stuff.
While I'm sending here a last 'draft' for 'square wheels', from now on I'll
better try to digest what is already out there trying to learn what I can
from my web developer position.

Best Regards,
Sebastián.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk
On Aug 4, 2017 12:46 PM, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:

> On 8/4/17 10:02 AM, Sebastian Samaruga wrote:
>
> Hi, I've updated my thoughts draft (in a very fuzzy and incomplete manner)
> with content I've pulled from my older drafts. I must apologize if the
> contents are not concise or clear as they should. I didn't have much time
> for cleaning up things.
>
> But if reading between lines is possible: I try to state the possibility
> of a 'Node' based SW as an approach of making 'applications' as the
> 'server/browser/content-type' approach was best suitable for a Web of
> 'documents'.
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIA
> f4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk
>
> Kind regards,
> Sebastian.
>
>
> Sebastian,
>
> Please take time to digest:
>
> [1] https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/swagger-the-api-
> economy-rest-linked-data-and-a-semantic-web-9d6839dae65a -- covers REST,
> MVC, and a Semantic Web of Linked Data
>
> [2] http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2015/07/conceptual-data-
> virtualization-across.html -- Conceptual Data Virtualization
>
> [3] https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/simple-youid-
> browser-extension-usage-exercise-57fa3ff6c6b7 -- Simple YouID Exercise
> (re. verifiable identity that scales to the Web).
>
> All of the posts above cover application of existing open standards in
> enterprise settings. Basically, issues relating to:
>
> [1] Identity
> [2] Identification
> [3] Authentication
> [4] Data Representation
> [5] Data Virtualization -- across disparate data sources
> [6] Data Manipulation .
>
> Kingsley
>
> On Jul 29, 2017 11:53 AM, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/29/17 2:05 AM, Sebastian Samaruga wrote:
>> >
>> > It's just thoughts about making what HTML did for 'web' applications
>> > but for SW (RDF) instead for 'whatever' applications...
>> >
>> > My point should be that SW should not have as much 'trouble' as HTML
>> > did for being useful having 'real' business applications (beside
>> > academia) running on top of it.
>> >
>> > We could skip much of the cumbersome work that was trying to build use
>> > cases over a distributed *document* edition system (with all the
>> > 'amendments' it imposed) trying to build applications over a
>> > distributed *data* edition and linking framework.
>> >
>> > At least for what I know we only have (lots of) protocols...
>> >
>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASr
>> mvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Seb.
>> >
>>
>> Hi Sebastian,
>>
>> HTML exposed the Web by way of User Agents (e.g. Browsers) that
>> implemented support. The notion of a Semantic Web requires extending
>> said Browsers to understand other hypermedia document types, which has
>> also been the challenge for many years.
>>
>> While a lot of work has occurred re., building out the server-side
>> infrastructure for webby structured data (using RDF Language and LInked
>> Data principles), the end-user productivity side of things has been
>> playing catch-up.
>>
>> Anyway, here are some client-side related applications and projects
>> aimed at building on the HTML+Browser foundation to expose the virtues
>> of a Read-Write Semantic Web of Linked Data:
>>
>> [1] http://osds.openlinksw.com -- Structured Data Sniffer Browser
>> Extension
>>
>> [2] http://osde.openlinksw.com -- Structured Data Editor
>>
>> [3] http://youid.openlinksw.com -- Verifiable Identity based WebID and
>> WebID+TLS protocol (while also supporting other authentication protocols)
>>
>> [4] http://dokie.li -- Read-Write Editor and Social Sharing combo that
>> doesn't leave your work in a silo, while also leverage features from
>> items above (e.g, use of YouID)
>>
>> Screencast Demo Links:
>>
>> [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vOr6fthFB4 -- Taking and saving
>> notes
>>
>> [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-yrSU1qx4s -- Controlling access to
>> content derived from note-taking activity
>>
>> Links:
>>
>> [1]
>> https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/semantic-web-layer
>> -cake-tweak-explained-6ba5c6ac3fab
>> -- Semantic Web Layer Cake illustration tweak, explained.
>>
>> I hope this helps!
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kingsley Idehen
>> Founder & CEO
>> OpenLink Software   (Home Page: http://www.openlinksw.com)
>>
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>>
>>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Kingsley Idehen	
> Founder & CEO
> OpenLink Software   (Home Page: http://www.openlinksw.com)
>
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