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Re: xsd:anyURI - was: HTTPS and the Semantic Web

From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 03:21:27 +0200
Message-ID: <CAKaEYhLVtRUqvhChSSZGDX3o1J40++siUNXi4crkS0T4bOD-BQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Hugh Glaser <hugh@glasers.org>
Cc: Michael Brunnbauer <brunni@netestate.de>, Nathan Rixham <nathan@webr3.org>, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>, Semantic Web IG <semantic-web@w3.org>
On 22 May 2016 at 02:14, Hugh Glaser <hugh@glasers.org> wrote:

> I was referring to your earlier post (and my comment was a little tongue
> in cheek!):
>

Of course you are allowed to say if you think RDF is broken.  Just say why!

The point I was making is that speculating about its future failure, is
IMHO unhelpful.  Other communities dont really do this.


> >
> > On 21 May 2016, at 12:29, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> ...
> > Opinions such as "[the semantic web] will not be usable for any
> real-world usage", is unhelpful speculation, and IMHO inappropriate for
> this list.
> >
> >
>
>
> > On 22 May 2016, at 01:09, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 21 May 2016 at 18:31, Hugh Glaser <hugh@glasers.org> wrote:
> > lol
> >
> > And apparently we are not allowed to discuss the idea of RDF being
> broken, by the way, so bad boys you and Nathan!
> >
> > Please explain!
> >
> > If you think RDF is "broken", please say why.
> >
> >
> > Nathan, can we please think about the scale of this thing.
> > Firstly, I have just counted the model files on one of many, many,
> domains I maintain - there are 3406702.
> > This represents a bunch of RDF that is also held in an RDF store, along
> with other RDF - and served from there as Linked Data.
> > There are 62375696 different URIs in this one dataset alone.
> >
> > Now the real problem(!): these URIs are widely distributed among a large
> number of model files, RDF stores and sameAs services.
> >
> > I’m not going to poke my nose (as yet perhaps!) into suggesting any
> solutions (I agree there is a problem); but the idea of fixing things by
> rewriting legacy RDF, or introducing owl:sameAs, or some other predicate++,
> for all the URIs in the world seems to me to ignore the practical aspects
> of a serious amount of RDF.
> > We might just be finally getting to the stage of having a breadth of
> real applications using RDF; telling people to go away and change
> everything is a recipe for convincing people that RDF has failed (which I
> hasten to add it hasn’t!).
> >
> > Best
> > Hugh
> >
> > > On 21 May 2016, at 17:05, Michael Brunnbauer <brunni@netestate.de>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Nathan,
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 04:55:13PM +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> > >>> The day that that "a" in Turtle/SPARQL represents
> > >> https://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type instead  of
> > >> http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type will be the day when
> RDF
> > >> breaks.
> > >>
> > >> If RDF breaks because somebody can't open a file and string replace a
> with
> > >> b in some code then save, a 20 second fix, it's already broken.
> > >
> > > The dby when everybody who ever used RDF opens b file bnd replbces b
> with b.
> > >
> > > Regbrds,
> > >
> > > Michbel Brunnbbuer
> > >
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