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Re: Deprecating owl:sameAs

From: Axel Polleres <droxel@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 21:02:34 +0200
Cc: Simon Spero <sesuncedu@gmail.com>, Linked Data community <public-lod@w3.org>, SW-forum <semantic-web@w3.org>
Message-Id: <6B8367B4-A6BD-4932-A276-12678017D439@gmail.com>
To: Aldo Gangemi <aldo.gangemi@gmail.com>, Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca>
Dear Sarven, Aldo, friends,

After some research, I realized that SameSameButDifferent already has a URI at IMDB, maybe it could be re-used:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1368443/

HTH,
Axel

> On 01 Apr 2016, at 19:22, Aldo Gangemi <aldo.gangemi@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Sarven, your April Fool’s provocation started a really serious thread ;)
> 
>> On 01 Apr 2016, at 18:15, Simon Spero <sesuncedu@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It's less of a  joke when it's a much argued topic within philosophical Ontology.
>> 
>> Your proposal is somewhat close to Geach's denial of absolute identity, though it is not clear what your precise stance on identity is, or, if you own a donkey, whether you have stopped beating it.
>> 
>> Can you clarify whether you are dispensing with entities?
>> 
>> Also, can you write up the other required changes to the OWL specifications required to prevent backdoor assertions that are equivalent to sameAs - Monday morning would be ideal so I'm going to need you work on it on Saturday. Yeah,  that would be great.
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016 9:10 AM, "Sarven Capadisli" <info@csarven.ca> wrote:
>> There is overwhelming research [1, 2, 3] and I think it is evident at this point that owl:sameAs is used inarticulately in the LOD cloud.
>> 
>> The research that I've done makes me conclude that we need to do a massive sweep of the LOD cloud and adopt owl:sameSameButDifferent.
>> 
>> I think the terminology is human-friendly enough that there will be minimal confusion down the line, but for the the pedants among us, we can define it along the lines of:
>> 
>> 
>> The built-in OWL property owl:sameSameButDifferent links things to things. Such an owl:sameSameButDifferent statement indicates that two URI references actually refer to the same thing but may be different under some circumstances.
>> 
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> [1] https://www.w3.org/2009/12/rdf-ws/papers/ws21
>> [2] http://www.bbc.co.uk/ontologies/coreconcepts#terms_sameAs
>> [3] http://schema.org/sameAs
>> 
>> -Sarven
>> http://csarven.ca/#i
>> 
> 
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